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2019-20 Miscellaneous NHL/Hockey News Thread

cmaleski2

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Sorry, one more thing on Brad McCrimmon.

Take the best 21 players in +/- all time. Only 1 of them is not a HoFer. Brad McCrimmon. I know that its always a bad idea to lower the bar, but if Kevin Lowe is a HOFer, then in all seriousness, to me, Brad McCrimmon should be HoFer. I will take McCrimmon's steady (better?) backline play over the same period and the tragedy of his death in the Lokomotiv plane crash over Kevin Lowe's 6 Cups as more HoF worthy. Niether really should be in the HoF, but if Lowe is worthy, McCrimmon is more worthy to me.

McCrimmon was also a 2nd team NHL all star in 88-89 (yeah, Kevin Lowe won no such honors in his career). McCrimmon had a 4th and 6th place finish in Norris trophy voting, Lowe had a 5th, 7th. 8th and 10th.
 
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andyt

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That’s a similar argument to what Mike Sundheim said about Hossa and Brind’Amour. If they swapped teams, would Chicago have won 3 Cups? Yes. Would the Canes have won in 2006 with Hossa instead of Brind’Amour? Seriously?

The other problem I have with Hossa is the same I had when Chris Pronger was elected. While both technically had been inactive long enough to be considered, both were still included in the salary cap for the Coyotes. Pronger didn’t play after 2011. He was elected to the HOF in 2015, he was on their cap on LTIR until 2017. Hossa hasn’t played since 2017, but he’s in the Coyotes cap, on LTIR, until next June.
 

andyt

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NHL Seattle doesn’t have a name yet, but they do have a name for the arena. Climate Pledge Arena Is a partnership with Amazon and it seeks to become the first carbon-zero arena in the world. It will be powered exclusively by renewable energy sources, with on-site solar panels and offsite solar farms, running solely on electric and eliminating all fossil fuels, even deploying electric Zambonis. All single use plastics will be banned, they're committing to zero functional waste. There won’t be any trash cans, only recycling and compost bins. They’re going to use rainwater to make the ice.

 

Paulie Walnuts

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I will likely get Solar electric panels for my new house

Vancouver seems to be off the hub list now. Toronto and Edmonton still in play.
 
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andyt

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I will likely get Solar electric panels for my new house

Vancouver seems to be off the hub list now. Toronto and Edmonton still in play.
My neighbor has them on her roof. But my roof faces the wrong direction and has too many odd angles to make it efficient.
 

Paulie Walnuts

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yes you need south facing roof or you can put panels on the ground. Some HOAs including mine don't allow them on the ground. Pretty sure a HOA cannot ban them . HOAs tried to ban direct TV small dishes but the FCC smacked them down since only federal law can regulate communications equipment.
 

jeffbear

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Sorry, one more thing on Brad McCrimmon.

Take the best 21 players in +/- all time. Only 1 of them is not a HoFer. Brad McCrimmon. I know that its always a bad idea to lower the bar, but if Kevin Lowe is a HOFer, then in all seriousness, to me, Brad McCrimmon should be HoFer. I will take McCrimmon's steady (better?) backline play over the same period and the tragedy of his death in the Lokomotiv plane crash over Kevin Lowe's 6 Cups as more HoF worthy. Niether really should be in the HoF, but if Lowe is worthy, McCrimmon is more worthy to me.

McCrimmon was also a 2nd team NHL all star in 88-89 (yeah, Kevin Lowe won no such honors in his career). McCrimmon had a 4th and 6th place finish in Norris trophy voting, Lowe had a 5th, 7th. 8th and 10th.
Neither of them even belong in their own primary team's Hall of Fame. All respect to McCrimmon, RIP ... none to Lowe, who was a bad GM on top of being a fraud as a player.
 

andyt

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Scott Burnside has an article in The Athletic about Climate Pledge Arena. Since they’re using rainwater to make the ice, they’ll have collection bins where fans can drop off their own collected water. One of the comments notes that the Wild do this with fans bringing lake water. Oak View Group, which is building the arena and will manage it, wants to incorporate as many of the green elements as possible in their other projects, including Belmont Park Arena for the Islanders.

 

andyt

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Greg Wyshynski reports that a memorandum of understanding on a new CBA could be announced as early as Sunday. It would cover 6 years with the first 2 of which are renegotiations of the current CBA, which doesn’t expire until September 2022. By doing that, it allowed the players to renegotiate terms of escrow withholdings for the next 2 years, when revenues are expected to remain depressed. The cap would remain fixed at $81.5 million and escrow would be capped at 20% for the next 2 years. Sportsnet reports that the players may also defer 10% of their 2020-21 salary.

 

jeffbear

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Hmm ... my sense is that the players once again valued in short term financial benefit over using leverage to try to make long term gains. This has been a problem for the NHLPA from Day 1.
 

andyt

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McKenzie tweeted that we may have a final decision on hub cities today. Vegas and Toronto appear to be the front runners but he says to take that with a grain of salt. Vancouver was a front runner until the BC Health Minister shut it down. Cases in Vegas Have spiked recently but they’re still considered a front runner because of the lockdown bubble the players would be in.

 

cmaleski2

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If they can get all the players and NHL staff booked at The Monte Carlo, Aria or New York New York they won't need to take any transportation to the games. They just need to cross the street to get to T-Mobile.
 
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