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BeLeafer

resurrected
I'm just amazed and gobsmacked by how many are out there on twitter. It must hurt a lot to have everything stuffed down your throat.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
There are generations of Leaf fans who are convinced that the right way to play hockey is physical, grinding hockey. It's a city that puts the Clark's, Domi's, and Tucker's above the Sundin's, Mogilny's, and Kaberle's.

It's tough to be told that almost everything you believed about the game for decades was at best, incomplete, or at worst, flat out wrong.
 

soco22

Well-known member
Best part of the splits is the expected GA vs our save percentage. Shows goaltending is dragging us down.
 

zeke

Well-known member
5v5 XGA/60

'20 SK: 2.29 (#9)
17-18: 2.52 (#24)
18-19: 2.59 (#25)
16-17: 2.56 (#28)
'20 MB: 2.55 (#28)


PK XGA/60

'20 SK: 4.77 (#1)
18-19: 6.30 (#10)
17-18: 7.28 (#15)
16-17: 7.61 (#27)
'20 MB: 7.67 (#27)
 

JackBurton

Well-known member
There are generations of Leaf fans who are convinced that the right way to play hockey is physical, grinding hockey. It's a city that puts the Clark's, Domi's, and Tucker's above the Sundin's, Mogilny's, and Kaberle's.

It's tough to be told that almost everything you believed about the game for decades was at best, incomplete, or at worst, flat out wrong.
The thing is too that those types of players barely exist in the NHl anymore. These people are not aware of that.
 

zeke

Well-known member
New Pairs (Even Strength)


Rielly: 14gms, 20:57, +5.1zdiff, 53.8cf%, 53.3xgf%
Barrie: 14gms, 18:01, +5.9zdiff, 52.6cf%, 50.9xgf%

Holl: 14gms, 18:06, -4.5zdiff, 54.1cf%, 54.9xgf%
Muzzin: 10gms, 19:04, -4.9zdiff, 53.4cf%, 49.8xgf%
Marincin: 4gms, 15:53, -3.7zdiff, 60.6cf%, 58.4xgf%

Ceci: 14gms, 16:31, +2.8zdiff, 52.6cf%, 57.9xgf%
Dermott: 14gms, 14:16, +2.4zdiff, 53.6cf%, 60.8xgf%


1. Rielly is a bit of a beast. Didnt realize he was getting so much more ice than Barrie still. That mostly comes with Ceci. But now that he's taking the heavy D matchup shifts, his numbers have startend to come up very nicely.

2. Barrie has been good in the new role, but not great. Given his offense, that mediocre possession is probably good enough.

3. Holl may just be a monster. He's getting the toughest minutes, yet putting up the best numbers. Those numbers are honestly a bit nuts.

4. Muzzin was good in this new top matchup role, but not great. Interesting.

5. Ceci has fit in very nicely in his new role. 3rd pair usage with a bit of extra duty. Complete waste of money still, but in terms of quality for role, he's turned this slot into a plus now.

6. Dermott seems to be slowly rounding back into form. Bit by bit getting his aggressiveness back with and without the puck, and finally starting to dominate soft competition again. Great to see.

7. Marincin has been flat out excellent since coming back in, in legit tough matchup minutes. Well enough that it might be tough to take him out again.



Looking at these numbers, there's a decent argument to be made (and iirc @BeLeafer already made it), that Rielly-Holl should be paired up and used in the tough matchup role. And remake the Muzzin-Barrie pair that had success in secondary usage to start the season.

And now we might have a logjam for the bottom pair, not just with these 3 but obviously with Sandin and Liljegren.
 

hockeylover

Well-known member
I know Brodie's a leftie playing on the right side but we know Dubas targeted him before.

Are his numbers good?
 

Neurospasm

Active member
Things are pretty rosy right now. I’d wait for someone desperate to talk to us and try to get the better of them.
 

zeke

Well-known member
My eyes keep going towards guys on bad teams like doughty and weber and karlsson, even if I know their contracts are bad.
 

soco22

Well-known member
New Pairs (Even Strength)


Rielly: 14gms, 20:57, +5.1zdiff, 53.8cf%, 53.3xgf%
Barrie: 14gms, 18:01, +5.9zdiff, 52.6cf%, 50.9xgf%

Holl: 14gms, 18:06, -4.5zdiff, 54.1cf%, 54.9xgf%
Muzzin: 10gms, 19:04, -4.9zdiff, 53.4cf%, 49.8xgf%
Marincin: 4gms, 15:53, -3.7zdiff, 60.6cf%, 58.4xgf%

Ceci: 14gms, 16:31, +2.8zdiff, 52.6cf%, 57.9xgf%
Dermott: 14gms, 14:16, +2.4zdiff, 53.6cf%, 60.8xgf%


1. Rielly is a bit of a beast. Didnt realize he was getting so much more ice than Barrie still. That mostly comes with Ceci. But now that he's taking the heavy D matchup shifts, his numbers have startend to come up very nicely.

2. Barrie has been good in the new role, but not great. Given his offense, that mediocre possession is probably good enough.

3. Holl may just be a monster. He's getting the toughest minutes, yet putting up the best numbers. Those numbers are honestly a bit nuts.

4. Muzzin was good in this new top matchup role, but not great. Interesting.

5. Ceci has fit in very nicely in his new role. 3rd pair usage with a bit of extra duty. Complete waste of money still, but in terms of quality for role, he's turned this slot into a plus now.

6. Dermott seems to be slowly rounding back into form. Bit by bit getting his aggressiveness back with and without the puck, and finally starting to dominate soft competition again. Great to see.

7. Marincin has been flat out excellent since coming back in, in legit tough matchup minutes. Well enough that it might be tough to take him out again.



Looking at these numbers, there's a decent argument to be made (and iirc @BeLeafer already made it), that Rielly-Holl should be paired up and used in the tough matchup role. And remake the Muzzin-Barrie pair that had success in secondary usage to start the season.

And now we might have a logjam for the bottom pair, not just with these 3 but obviously with Sandin and Liljegren.
Why does Soco not get credit for Reilly-Holl matchup? Been saying for a while wanted to see it ;)
 
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