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Canadiens VS Pens. Best of Five July whatever...

Hoiles

Active member
As much as it would please me for the Habs to eliminate the Penguins, this draft format makes me hope the playoffs end up being cancelled
 

CH1

The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
If Pitt loses do they slide into the lottery ?
depends if there are still slots available....if all the non playoff teams grab the top spots, I'm pretty sure that, if....aw **** it. who am I trying to fool? I don't have a PHD in Advanced Bettman Strategies. Maybe someone else can answer.
 

wiseguy1

Well-known member
LOL, supposedly the trash talking has started on the Pens side. Seriously? The quality of hockey is going to be putrid.
 

cmaleski2

Well-known member
Bottom line on the draft lottery after you play out both phases (if necessary) is that each of the 8 losers of the play-in round have an equal 3.06% chance at the 1st overall pick. Then slightly higher chances (but no much higher) at the 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Its 75.5% that one of the non-playoff teams will get the first overall pick.
 

GEEMAN

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Bottom line on the draft lottery after you play out both phases (if necessary) is that each of the 8 losers of the play-in round have an equal 3.06% chance at the 1st overall pick. Then slightly higher chances (but no much higher) at the 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Its 75.5% that one of the non-playoff teams will get the first overall pick.
I am hearing that if picks 1-3 are awarded by the non playing teams , lottery is over

The other teams have no shot to move into the top 3
 

Habspatrol

ADMINuteman
Staff member
This is how the lottery will work.

They will hold the lottery with the actual bottom 7 teams PLUS 8 "placeholders" aka losing teams from the "play-in" round.

The bottom 7 teams will be weighted by their placement as per usual. The 8 placeholders will be weighted as teams 8-15 normally would be.

If one or more "placeholders" win a lottery pick... there will be another lottery with just the 8 losing teams from the play-in round. They will all have equal odds of winning the pick/picks up for grabs.
 

Hoiles

Active member
So if I’m reading it right, the Habs after losing in the play-in round would have the same chance at getting a top 3 pick as any other team losing the same round. How did we agree to this?? I guess that the cost of making a playoff we didn’t deserve to make.
 

xposbrad

Active member
So if I’m reading it right, the Habs after losing in the play-in round would have the same chance at getting a top 3 pick as any other team losing the same round. How did we agree to this?? I guess that the cost of making a playoff we didn’t deserve to make.
lol ya, Habs got screwed again. So dumb. We were better off not making the playoffs. But financially the playoffs gives Molson a bit extra cash, so it works out for ownership.
 

wiseguy1

Well-known member
It will be interesting to see what the two Hub cities will be for playoffs. Vancouver out west should be a no-brainer. East not sure, maybe Columbus? Toronto would make it 2 Canadian cities, not sure NHL would go for that.
 

hockeylover

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I'm going to guess it's two US cities with local and state governments that have relaxed restrictions and a political appetite to get back to normal quickly. Florida? Vegas? Just guessing.

Don't see it being Toronto and would be quite disappointed if it was.
 

Habspatrol

ADMINuteman
Staff member
I'm going to guess it's two US cities with local and state governments that have relaxed restrictions and a political appetite to get back to normal quickly. Florida? Vegas? Just guessing.

Don't see it being Toronto and would be quite disappointed if it was.
Yeah those guesses are as good as any. Arizona and Colorado could be options in the west too.
 

hockeylover

Well-known member
Arizona was going to be my other guess. I'm not even sure they'd particularly care if both hub cities were in the West. It almost makes more sense if they're close because eventually the team that comes out of one conference will need to transfer to the other hub city for the finals and you think they'd want to make it a short trip.
 

cmaleski2

Well-known member
I am hearing that if picks 1-3 are awarded by the non playing teams , lottery is over

The other teams have no shot to move into the top 3
That is correct buts its easier to just do the math. Those percentages I showed are the odds of any of the 15 teams ending up with the first overall pick. Those percentages are correct overall odds without the confusing language about multiple draws depending on what happens in the first draw.
Bottom line, the odds that a specific play-in loser gets the first overall pick is 3.0625%. The odds that any play-in loser get the first overall pick is 24.5%.
 
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