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blkngldbabe

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Ya. Dude needs to **** right off. I’ve never been a system Milker, but I’m screwed without it currently. My gym job is spotty to return anytime soon. My part time dealership gig is questionable as I have no secure child care I can trust to not let my immunocompromised child get ill with this.
 

UWHabs

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I really think that this whole crisis has really put the spotlight on how absolutely essential bringing in a UBI system is. Yes, we need to encourage people to work whenever possible, and you need a system that does still encourage that to an extent, but man, we saw with this rollout that having a system that's just brutally simple to opt into, pays everything out, and then we worry about sorting out the finicky details later, just makes so much sense for a situation like this.

Seriously, if the next election doesn't have at least one major party be a vocal advocate for UBI, then all the party leaders should just be immediately fired.
 

Wayward DP

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it's a shame the inmates seem to run the asylum in the CPC these days.

would be nice to have a legit alternative to Justin.
 

LeafGm

Well-known member
it's a shame the inmates seem to run the asylum in the CPC these days.

would be nice to have a legit alternative to Justin.

Yeah, I’m pretty much resigned to giving the CPC zero consideration for the foreseeable future, unfortunately.

Scheer’s one of the worst leaders of a major federal party that I’ve seen in my lifetime.

MacKay’s got a lengthy track record of being shitty at politics, and an incompetent, tone-deaf bimbo.

Erin O’Toole’s campaign is run by the guy who created and runs the “Ontario Proud/Canada Proud” troll farms.

And all of them are making a habit of playing hard to their rabid base one day, and half-heartedly walking their comments back later for the sake of trying to appease the moderate voters they actually need to form government.
 

zeke

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Is this a bad thing?

I never looked in to sidewalk labs enough to form my own opinion on it, but it seemed like there was a lot of vocal opposition to the project.
oh plenty of people thought it was just the surveillance state coming into being.

but I think it's the future, and it was cool that we were a part of it.
 

UWHabs

Well-known member
oh plenty of people thought it was just the surveillance state coming into being.

but I think it's the future, and it was cool that we were a part of it.
Yeah, that was my take too. Was interesting to follow along with, imagine a little bit of what a "connected" city might be. But definitely a lot of people didn't care for it.

In the end, in a lot of ways, once they started digging into it, I almost thought the proposal was too small. Like, when it was first announced, you pictured almost a whole village around the docklands. But then a little later, the only land they actually had to play with was a tiny parcel, and really it was kind of useless since you could barely fit one building plus a walkway in the area they had to play with.
 

zeke

Well-known member
Yeah, that was my take too. Was interesting to follow along with, imagine a little bit of what a "connected" city might be. But definitely a lot of people didn't care for it.

In the end, in a lot of ways, once they started digging into it, I almost thought the proposal was too small. Like, when it was first announced, you pictured almost a whole village around the docklands. But then a little later, the only land they actually had to play with was a tiny parcel, and really it was kind of useless since you could barely fit one building plus a walkway in the area they had to play with.
yeah I was hoping that it would form a template for the rest of the development of those portlands, and then spread from there.
 

CH1

The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Is this a bad thing?

I never looked in to sidewalk labs enough to form my own opinion on it, but it seemed like there was a lot of vocal opposition to the project.
there’s always opposition to these kinds of ventures. You can’t even build a condo without Margaret Atwood using her social media power to shut it down.

I thought it was a cool project but I doubted it would ever come to fruition when the city started to get cold feet. COVID provided a convenient excuse for Google to shut it down
 

worm

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Alberta opens more in a few days.

But thought I would share my covid golf story.


Booked for last Tuesday (so 4 days after golf was allowed).
- Had to pay in advance.
- Pull onto the property and you drive beside a bunch of holes. First thing I notice - 4 bros standing shoulder to shoulder on the tee box.
- Arrive at the parking lot - a guy greets you (stands like 15 feet from car window, confirms your tee time, tells you to park but remain in your car until 15 mins before the tee time.
- 15 mins before the tee time we get out of our cars and walk to the starter hut - there they explain the rules about social distancing, no rakes in bunkers, no ball washing stations, raised cup, do not touch the flag, washrooms are closed
- Hands us all a scorecard (obviously not physical distancing)
- My group was pretty good about social distancing a few times i caught them walking too close to me but generally we stayed over 10 feet from each other - was real easy on the back nine because 2 quit after 9 holes

Outside of being handed a scorecard there was no other touching of anything that was not mine. I at one point almost picked up a wedge at the side of the green but remembered not to do that.

At that course it seems pretty easy to be safe - biggest risk is on your group - are you social distancing with each other.

Note it was good to talk with people in person.
 

WellPlayed

Well-known member
that old factory building in the photo is a real eyesore going by there. looks like something out of Fallout.
The entire waterfront is a bit of an embarrassment for a city that wants to be considered "world class".

I'm not sure the sidewalk labs project was for the best, privacy issues and Google's track record are definitely concerning. But man, did anyone see this going any other way?

It just seems impossible to get major infrastructure projects done in Ontario cities. Spend years consulting the public, holding meetings, doing environmental assessments, studying whether its carbon neutral and promotes gender equality, allow special interest groups and opinion writers to scream loud and long enough, and just in time a new government can get elected and scrap the whole thing.

What was the last bold project Toronto was able to get done? Subway hasn't changed in 50 years.

Thought about scrapping the Gardiner so they could develop the waterfront and associated public transit properly - but that would be way too controversial. Instead, lets repair it and move a small chunk of it slightly north for a few billion. Not to go all LeafsNation, but jesus it's ugly down there.

 

UWHabs

Well-known member
The entire waterfront is a bit of an embarrassment for a city that wants to be considered "world class".

I'm not sure the sidewalk labs project was for the best, privacy issues and Google's track record are definitely concerning. But man, did anyone see this going any other way?

It just seems impossible to get major infrastructure projects done in Ontario cities. Spend years consulting the public, holding meetings, doing environmental assessments, studying whether its carbon neutral and promotes gender equality, allow special interest groups and opinion writers to scream loud and long enough, and just in time a new government can get elected and scrap the whole thing.

What was the last bold project Toronto was able to get done? Subway hasn't changed in 50 years.

Thought about scrapping the Gardiner so they could develop the waterfront and associated public transit properly - but that would be way too controversial. Instead, lets repair it and move a small chunk of it slightly north for a few billion. Not to go all LeafsNation, but jesus it's ugly down there.

The Gardiner really does close off the harbourfront area from the rest of the city. As someone who used to live down there, it was actually nice sometimes that things didn't get too busy, but yeah, it's such a wasted opportunity.

The Western portion, from around Amsterdam over through exhibition area is quite nice. They at least try, to a small degree. Stuff like the Bentway out by Fort York is at least a use of space under the highway, even if it's still kind of small and brutal. They're supposed to tear up the Rees St Parking lot and put a little parkette in there, which should help too.

But the Eastern portion is just bad. There's no transit along the way, so it's brutal to get around. You have the Redpath Factory which you can't really do anything about, followed by a nice stretch around Sugar Beach and the George Brown campus, but then you have a ton of essentially industrial wasteland after that. At least they have a good idea for that portlands renovations which should help fix the lower Donlands, but it's such a wasted opportunity to not use the time to tear down the Gardiner and actually make that eastern portion usable. But obviously that's never going to happen, since the suburbs will riot before they spend money tearing down the gardiner and adding even more transit downtown, even if that would make the city 100X better than it is.
 
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