GDT Maple Leafs vs Habs | Traditional HNIC Matchup!
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MyNameIsJonas
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i think i had a stroke reading this.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
You read through that exchange? The second I saw Pronger trying to debate Mindz I assumed that Mindz had eviscerated him and didn't bother wasting the time on a predetermined conclusion.
Deckie007
Well-known member
Would explain your posting
Get turned on by potato bullying do you?
Wayward DP
Well-known member
P84 does have a special relationship with the cliche. And just a healthy amount of special going on in general. But credit to him for holding his ground, even if his position shifts with the wind.
Pronger84
Active member
My argument has been the same as it's always been which is twofold
1. Reimer doesn't play well under pressure
2. He has cost us the past 4 games
If you can't understand the argument I'm trying to make or get confused by it, not my problem.
Pronger84
Active member
You're giving Mindzeye too much credit.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
No, I'm really not. You are not ever going to win an argument with him.
Pronger84
Active member
Keep telling yourself that... I'm far from perfect and I've been wrong often but so has he, the difference he'll never admit it.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
Ellipses are not really appropriate in this exchange.
Pronger84
Active member
Neither is bowing down and kissing his ass.
Pronger84
Active member
Considering he tried telling me Reimer was good under pressure because he stole the Leafs Games 5-6 last year and I countered with 6 times that he has melted under pressure, I'd say he's lost the argument and he knows it which is why he tried to backtrail by claiming he never felt Reimer was solid when the heat is on... tells me all I need to know about who won that argument.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
Kid doesn't get it, does he?
Preston_Mizzi
Banned
Can we just make it clear that this is only because Pronger is mentally ridiculous and not because ME is some mastermind genius?
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
If I was the only person who thought that you've been spinning out of control the last few pages, you'd have a point.
and as I've pointed out, you refuse to accept contradictory evidence into your opinion. Reimer has played well in pressure games in the past, plain and simple fact. He has also played poorly in pressure games in the past. So, when you look at the evidence available, the conclusion you're drawing is, at minimum, unfounded.
I wouldn't dream of trying to add to what I imagine your problems are.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Even I'm fine with that. Awesome is not infallible.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Your reading comprehension sucks. It really, really sucks. I will spell this out simply, which I realize will make no difference, but I'm a team player.
You said that Reimer chokes under pressure. This is a definitive statement in which you are suggesting that James Reimer is unable to perform well while under pressure. I pointed out that there have been numerous games in the past, that were obviously pressure filled games, where James Reimer stood on his ****ing head. This is not proof positive that James Reimer is good "under pressure" (I prefer the term high leverage, because it's a bit easier to quantify what it means, but whatever), however it is proof that the statement "James Reimer is bad under pressure" is false.
You see, I don't need to prove that Reimer is good in pressure games to refute your argument. I merely need to prove that he hasn't flopped in all of them. I'm quite confident that if we actually provided a definition to what a pressure game is, he's probably around .500 in his career while performing at his career average SV% or better in them.
What I just wrote above is very simple logic. Read it a few times, let it sink in. That's what just happened. Everything else you went on about was a product of you shifting courses, misinterpreting very clearly stated arguments (you're literally the only person reading it who misunderstood), etc
The funny part is, you think that a 6 game sample is proof of something. Legitimately, in your mind, a 6 game sample is definitive proof that Reimer is poor under pressure.
To recap what you say your argument was
1) Has been proven demonstrably false.
2) I've agreed with numerous times (in fact, if you go back a little further in the thread, including during the game, I was among those panning his performance)
You continuously do this every time someone actually tries to engage you in a legitimate discussion. Now you'll pretend that everyone (other than me) who tries to point it out to you are either 1) afraid of me 2) sniffing my ass, etc. Your level of self awareness is tremendously low. You seem to cling to some fantasy that you're making these solid, coherent arguments against me, but you're the only one who sees it. You'd really be best off doing a little bit more reading and a little bit less arguing.
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Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
No way you can say that with any certainty.
Price was not stellar either, he's played far better than he did last night.
Saying the loss was strictly on Reimer is disingenuous.