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Leafs acquire Matt Murray

LeafOfFaith said:
"New"?

It matters to have someone good enough in there. Murray is good enough. Jack was good enough. Freddy was good enough. These guys would all be having Kuemper moments if Matty and Marner could come through in elimination games.

I watched the finals. Kuemper was garbage. Bad goal after bad goal. I'm not crying over not giving that guy term.
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Kuemper is the first goalie since MAF in 2009 to win a cup with lower than a .910 and had the lowest SV% to win a stanley cup since Grant fucking Fuhr in 88.

This year was not the norm. .910-.915 is the bare minimum with only a few examples of even just that over the last ~35 years. .920-.930 is the standard and there's been more .930+ performances from winning goalies than their have been under .920.

"Good enough" is .920+. Anything less is your skaters dragging your goalie to a cup kicking and screaming.
 
mbow30 said:
I dunno. Giving jack 5-6 per year till he’s 36 was a pretty shut option.
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Is Dubas..and ourselves too worried about that though? It's all about now for this team. We have to win. If we have a deal that burns us 3-5 years from now so be it. It's starting to look like he's too worried about that. The damage Matt Murray trade can do next 2 years can end this entire core.
 
Yeah, it’s not like jacks a slam dunk for a few years.
What you’re suggesting would be like trading for varly And giving him a long term extension or trading for bob.
 
mbow30 said:
Yeah, it’s not like jacks a slam dunk for a few years.
What you’re suggesting would be like trading for varly And giving him a long term extension or trading for bob.
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Look at this trade. It's a festering piece of dog shit. It's better to give Jack 5 X 5 than this. He took it so bad in the ass by Dorion.
 
Aberdeen said:
So do people like this trade at 50% retained? What's the delta?
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My general thesis was 50% makes him a reasonable bounce back play as our 1B and leaves ~5 million to go after another goaltending option.

The difference between 50% retention and 25% retention imo is role. At 25% retention, the expectation is that he's our 1A or a pure starter....which is fucking dumb.
 
If you want to shit on Dubas for the goaltending shit on the fact that his options this year were paying a 30 year old with one mediocre year as a starting goalie and trading for Matt Murray.
 
MindzEye said:
My general thesis was 50% makes him a reasonable bounce back play as our 1B and leaves ~5 million to go after another goaltending option.

The difference between 50% retention and 25% retention imo is role. At 25% retention, the expectation is that he's our 1A or a pure starter....which is fucking dumb.
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This. He's the starter now. I can't believe it. Absolutely no reason 50% wasn't retained.
 
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