MyNameIsJonas
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Brandon Belt 35 HR
Daulton Varsho 31 HR
Daulton Varsho 31 HR
It's never made any sense.It’s weird that parks can have different dimensions. I get that Fenway and all that, that it’s always been this way and is kind of cool to have variation, but is there some minimum distance regulation or teams just do what they want?
I find it charming, and part of the rich history of the game. Baseball stadiums have a really big footprint, and sometimes they need to be sort of sandwiched into the parcel of land they’re on. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, there wasn’t the option of building a park in the suburbs and asking everyone to drive out there. You built a park where the people were and hoped they became interested in baseball.It's never made any sense.
I find it charming, and part of the rich history of the game. Baseball stadiums have a really big footprint, and sometimes they need to be sort of sandwiched into the parcel of land they’re on. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, there wasn’t the option of building a park in the suburbs and asking everyone to drive out there. You built a park where the people were and hoped they became interested in baseball.
Fenway used to have pretty normal LF dimensions (with a hill in front of the fence actually). Then they put up a big net because home runs to LF kept smashing widows in the stores behind the wall. They removed the hill and moved the fence in so there was a bit of space. Then they raised the wall. RF used to be pretty normal there too, but they needed space for bullpens, so moved the fence in and put the pens between the seats and the fence. That’s basically exactly what they’re doing with Rogers Centre right now. It’s a nice solution, IMO, and it makes the game more interactive.
I think some variation is fine. After all, parks do sort of need to be deeper in Colorado than they do in San Diego due to weather, and baseball seems to have a much larger impact of the playing conditions than other sports. It's not like Denver Broncos QBs complete a significantly larger percent of passes compared to playing in SD or MIA or something.
I do think for "new" parks, there should be some rules and limits. I don't think the fences should be cookie cutter versions, but I wouldn't mind if they were forced to be at least reasonably balanced. Like the Jays changes are pretty small, that would be fine. But I think parks should be forced to at least pretend to be balanced vs L/vs R and offense/defense.
I dont recall Helton's name coming up and he should get in next year and fwiwIf McGriff is in, Delago should make it too. Nearly identical careers aside from the WS win for McGriff.
Carlos was also one of the few sluggers from the era whose name didn't come up in any of the steroid scandals. Bonds, Giambi, McGwire, Canseco, Sosa, Bagwell, Manny, Palmeiro, ARod, Glaus, Helton, etc, etc...almost everyone who was a consistent top 20 hitter in the game was at minimum implicated in steroid scandals, most of them were flat out caught red handed.
There weren't a lot of premiere power hitters from the era that weren't juicing. Carlos, Thome, Albert Belle, Larry Walker...can't think of many more.
GriffeyIf McGriff is in, Delago should make it too. Nearly identical careers aside from the WS win for McGriff.
Carlos was also one of the few sluggers from the era whose name didn't come up in any of the steroid scandals. Bonds, Giambi, McGwire, Canseco, Sosa, Bagwell, Manny, Palmeiro, ARod, Glaus, Helton, etc, etc...almost everyone who was a consistent top 20 hitter in the game was at minimum implicated in steroid scandals, most of them were flat out caught red handed.
There weren't a lot of premiere power hitters from the era that weren't juicing. Carlos, Thome, Albert Belle, Larry Walker...can't think of many more.
I dont recall Helton's name coming up and he should get in next year and fwiw
McGriff 56 WAR
Helton 54 WAR
Delgado 44 WAR
I consider McGriff and Helton fairly fringe for 1B as it is, so i dont quite get the case for Delgado at a super stacked position