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OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

MyNameIsJonas said:
Johnny King is a better P prospect than Trey Yesavage.
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ehhhh....proximity to the league, especially for a pitcher, is huge. Yesavage is a year or so ahead of schedule and blowing the doors off of AA hitters as a 21 yr old with a decentish shot at making the jump next year. Let's wait to talk about King when he's at least dummying high A.
 
MindzEye said:
ehhhh....proximity to the league, especially for a pitcher, is huge. Yesavage is a year or so ahead of schedule and blowing the doors off of AA hitters as a 21 yr old with a decentish shot at making the jump next year. Let's wait to talk about King when he's at least dummying high A.
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I expect King to get his final couple of starts at High A, and just from i read think his stuff will play in the bigs better, but you're not at all incorrect. Mainly just happy King survived the deadline. I imagine we were asked on him alot
 
I was actually just asking about having one, regardless whether we developed him or not.

If talking about developing, I'd think Romero was maybe the top guy of the past 20 years? Jimmy Key before that, sure, but pure control guy with no power whatsoever, so while he was good, a different kind of good.

So I guess Price and Buehrle and Ray. Ray's having a really good season after two years of bad.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Jimmy Key and Duane Ward are my go to answers for most underrated Jays and i've long been tempted to add one or both of those Jerseys to my collection
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Honestly not sure if Tony gets enough love. 4x gold glover as a Jay but should have been 5x. Blew Alfredo Griffin's doors off in dwar in 85, wasn't even close. Good, above average stick overall but a top 2-3 hitter as a SS in an era where SS's were all glove.

Here's Tony's AL rank among SS's in wRC+ during his time in Toronto

85: 2nd
86: 3rd
87: 3rd
88: 4th (1% behind 3rd)
89: 4th
90: 4th

Over that stretch, Tony was 3rd in the AL in WAR (26.2) among SS's to Alan Trammell (31.0 - HOF) & Cal Ripken Jr (32.8 - HOF)

Then came back as a 36-37 yr old and gave us 2 seasons of over 120 wRC+ at 3B. The only time in his career that he ever sucked in the playoffs, was for the Yankees. Fucking legend.
 
MindzEye said:
Honestly not sure if Tony gets enough love. 4x gold glover as a Jay but should have been 5x. Blew Alfredo Griffin's doors off in dwar in 85, wasn't even close. Good, above average stick overall but a top 2-3 hitter as a SS in an era where SS's were all glove.

Here's Tony's AL rank among SS's in wRC+ during his time in Toronto

85: 2nd
86: 3rd
87: 3rd
88: 4th (1% behind 3rd)
89: 4th
90: 4th

Over that stretch, Tony was 3rd in the AL in WAR (26.2) among SS's to Alan Trammell (31.0 - HOF) & Cal Ripken Jr (32.8 - HOF)

Then came back as a 36-37 yr old and gave us 2 seasons of over 120 wRC+ at 3B. The only time in his career that he ever sucked in the playoffs, was for the Yankees. Fucking legend.
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Its funny i legit almost included Tony and Stieb in my post, but figured they got slightly more credit by the masses than Ward and Key ( honestly Bell, Moseby as well).

Re Stieb if anyone hasnt watched the 4 part YouTube series on him by Secret Base, they should
 
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