2019-20 Hurricanes Prospects and Checkers Thread
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Paulie Walnuts
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Duke BB had a guy change his mind at the last minute to stay home and play at Minnesota. He later became famous for marrying Kim K for 2 months. I guess the marriage started to go down hill as they walked out of the church. 
He had a short NBA career.
He had a short NBA career.Harvard is going strictly online, Princeton split the classes; Freshman and juniors on campus in the fall and online in spring, Sophs and seniors have the opposite schedule. How can either school field any athletic teams during the school year? Could this be the move that pushes Drury to sign?
Besides Rizzo and Drury, the Canes have Fensore at BU, Wall at Penn State, Webber who was supposed to go to Penn State but lost most of his season due to injury, Kucharski at AIC and LaFontaine at Minnesota. Rizzo also has an option to play in the WHL if he wants, he was drafted 15th overall by Kamloops. But the others are Americans and I think they’re allocated by region if they weren’t drafted by any teams in the CHL. LaFontaine is Canadian but he’s too old.
I mean ... if it was my own kid, I'd be looking at other options, that's for danged sure. Especially after the way some schools treated their spring sports athletes ... pulling the plug on them at the last minute and giving them no time to change course if they wanted to, or could. Just another bullet point on my long list of reasons the NCAA can suck it.
cmaleski2
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Isn't it fair to say that its more likely the Swedish Elite League plays a full season than the AHL does? When is the AHL season going to start this year?
If I'm Drury my thought process might be:
A) I think I'm a legit NHL prospect, so staying at Harvard another year, not knowing if they will have any season at all is clearly not a smart decision (one can certainly argue for the value of a Harvard eduction though...)
B) If I sign my 3 year entry level deal with the Canes now, where am I going to play? Does the AHL season start in...December? January? At all?
C) Do I even want to sign with the Canes? I'm not sure yet. But I want to play somewhere and signing in Europe allows me to play pro without yet committing to the Canes
That is all assuming its DRURY that drove this decision.
The OLD CBA rules state....with Drury ceasing to be a bona fide college student in advance of what would have been his 3rd year, the Canes will retain his rights until the 4th June 1st following his draft year. So the Canes retain his rights until June 1 2022. They do so without being obligated to make him a contract offer.
Did the Canes force Drury into this decision by not even offering him a contract yet in order to prolong the start of his entry level deal another year (and prolong having to pay him)? Did the Canes coordinate/encourage this to continue Drury's development with the AHL/NHL 20-21 season and NCAA season uncertain? Did Drury elect to not sign an entry level deal with the Canes and go this route? If so why?
Lots to be found out here.
As for being 'better'. It might be better for him. It might be better for the Canes. IT might be better for both? Kind of depends how this all came about. But as for Drury's development, the Swedish Hockey League as a 20 year old isn't a bad place for him to continue his development.
If you are thinking 'Why would Drury do this when if he signed with the Canes, he could get out of the entry level system and get to UFA status and get situationed with the franchise quicker, you are assuming that the Canes offered him a contract, which they are under no obligation to do at this point.
If I'm Drury my thought process might be:
A) I think I'm a legit NHL prospect, so staying at Harvard another year, not knowing if they will have any season at all is clearly not a smart decision (one can certainly argue for the value of a Harvard eduction though...)
B) If I sign my 3 year entry level deal with the Canes now, where am I going to play? Does the AHL season start in...December? January? At all?
C) Do I even want to sign with the Canes? I'm not sure yet. But I want to play somewhere and signing in Europe allows me to play pro without yet committing to the Canes
That is all assuming its DRURY that drove this decision.
The OLD CBA rules state....with Drury ceasing to be a bona fide college student in advance of what would have been his 3rd year, the Canes will retain his rights until the 4th June 1st following his draft year. So the Canes retain his rights until June 1 2022. They do so without being obligated to make him a contract offer.
Did the Canes force Drury into this decision by not even offering him a contract yet in order to prolong the start of his entry level deal another year (and prolong having to pay him)? Did the Canes coordinate/encourage this to continue Drury's development with the AHL/NHL 20-21 season and NCAA season uncertain? Did Drury elect to not sign an entry level deal with the Canes and go this route? If so why?
Lots to be found out here.
As for being 'better'. It might be better for him. It might be better for the Canes. IT might be better for both? Kind of depends how this all came about. But as for Drury's development, the Swedish Hockey League as a 20 year old isn't a bad place for him to continue his development.
If you are thinking 'Why would Drury do this when if he signed with the Canes, he could get out of the entry level system and get to UFA status and get situationed with the franchise quicker, you are assuming that the Canes offered him a contract, which they are under no obligation to do at this point.
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Sure. That aside, it's better than sitting around not getting games in the US. His other options would possibly have been ... what? Finland doesn't take a ton of North American players under normal circumstances, and the KHL is a crap shoot in every possible way. That's about it for the top shelf. Germany and Switzerland might be options but the quality of play isn't the same calibre.
Tomorrow is the deadline for signing drafted players who graduated. The Canes have Matt Filipe, Luke Martin, Luke Stevens and Max Zimmer on the list. I imagine if they had any interest in signing them, they’d have already done it. Any players not signed by the deadline become UFAs.
cmaleski2
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Filipe is the only one of those 4 I would consider giving an entry level deal to, and that probably would just be the waste of a contract. Luke Martin was the highest draft pick of the 4, picked 52 overall AFTER his freshman year at Michigan. He's not even worthy of getting a look in the minors. Not quite sure who is to blame for that waste of a pick.
None of those guys are going to find an NHL entry level deal anywhere else after the Canes allow our negotiating rights to expire. I would say they would be fortunate to find even an AHL/ECHL contract.
None of those guys are going to find an NHL entry level deal anywhere else after the Canes allow our negotiating rights to expire. I would say they would be fortunate to find even an AHL/ECHL contract.
cmaleski2
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Well I was wrong about Filipe getting an NHL deal apparently. We have so many unsigned draft picks in the pipeline, I still think we would have been wasting a contract signing Filipe. He is a MA kid and played at Northeastern so him signing with Boston seems like a fit.
We do have a lot of unsigned picks in the pipeline, but not a lot of players in Charlotte. There are 6 non-roster forwards with contracts next year and 3 of them, Geekie, Bokk and Suzuki, won’t be there. That leaves Mattheos and the Cotton brothers. Pritchard, Smallman, Lorentz and Bishop are RFAs with arbitration rights. McCormick and Gibbons are UFAs and will almost definitely be moving in. The 2019 draft class has Rees and Murray but the other forwards are either in college or overseas. Signing Filipe to a 2 year entry level deal wouldn’t have been an organizational disaster and he could have been non-qualified after 2 seasons if he didn’t pan out or the likes of Puistola, Tieksola, Killinen or Drury came over.
Makes more sense if you figure they're going to eventually go with Chicago as the affiliate. The Wolves typically stock a good chunk of their own roster.
Gets him playing and gets him away from Sweden's covid situation. Again, I keep seeing that they want him in the A ... but that's a long way down the calendar at the moment.
Bokk’s loan to Krefeld only lasts until the Canes open camp, according to an article that CanesProspects tweeted. So it looks like he’s ticketed for Chicago this year.
Yeah ... that all makes sense for Bokk. Given how his development has gone since his draft year, it's important that Carolina gain control of his playing time and usage. The only way to do that is to get the kid in the A. He's 20 now and his ELC clock hasn't started ticking yet, but the last couple of years have largely been wasted due to erratic usage. For a kid who might have special offensive upside but still has a lot of quirks to work out ... playing time in controlled situations is the only way to get that bet to pay out.