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2021-22 News Thread

jeffbear

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Three a year keeps from having somebody lose out on the spotlight they deserve just because they're in a huge induction class. I'm fine with that. And so far the Hall has been really careful about inducting late career DPs who had brief MLS careers, and rightfully so. I suspect we get one woman this year and that it will be either Wagner or Holliday, which neatly kicks the Solo can down the road a year. Again, the only reason to keep her out is because she's a jerk and that's not a good enough reason.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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And so far the Hall has been really careful about inducting late career DPs who had brief MLS careers, and rightfully so.
Beckham, though, changed the landscape of the sport in the U. S., and has been instrumental in his investing into the American football system (his academy and through Miami FC). And Henry not only spent five productive years with the Red Bulls, he also guided the Impact to the playoffs during his brief stint there. Think it'll be difficult to ignore them, especially Becks.

As for the women, I suspect you're right, which would be too bad for Hope.
 

andyt

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But they only take 3 each year (why?) And with David Beckham, Robbie Keane, Thierry Henry, along with Aly Wagner and Lauren Cheney Holliday on that list, how do you choose?
I thought Holiday had well over 100 caps, but she only had 133, which is only 2 more than Wagner had. And I would have said Wagner had under 100. And on the biggest stages, she wasn’t a consistent starter, nor making consistent appearances. She never played in a final, the closest she came was the 3rd place match in the 2007 World Cup. So I’d say Holiday ahead of her.

The others? Beckham before Henry and Keane. If Beckham hadn’t come to LA, the others wouldn’t have crossed the pond either.
 

jeffbear

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For my money, Holiday is a more important player but neither her nor Wagner had anything like the career Solo had. I know she's a problem for the establishment folks but you just can't keep ignoring what she did on the field forever.

And I get all that stuff about Becks, but I'm still not buying it. He was fine ... almost purely a specialist for LA, but at least he was effective at it. I just don't think the "influence" he had on others was as important as people make out, or even fully relevant.
 

andyt

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For my money, Holiday is a more important player but neither her nor Wagner had anything like the career Solo had. I know she's a problem for the establishment folks but you just can't keep ignoring what she did on the field forever.

And I get all that stuff about Becks, but I'm still not buying it. He was fine ... almost purely a specialist for LA, but at least he was effective at it. I just don't think the "influence" he had on others was as important as people make out, or even fully relevant.
No question. Solo was the best keeper in the world for a number of years. As much as I loved Holiday, and she was one of my favorites, she didn’t have anywhere near the impact as Solo.
 

jeffbear

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Weird, transformative NWSL season wrapped up with a really good playoff final that saw Washington dispatch Chicago 2-1 in an entertaining game. That caps a rough season in DC with a storybook ending ... good on the ladies for keeping themselves focused through all the drama. BIG off season for the league as they hammer out a new, more respectful relationship with their players and try to get back on track to be the best home for professional women ... a freaking low bar if you take a good hard look at the competition.
 

jeffbear

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More NWSL news ... Chicago parted ways with longtime coach Rory Dames, allowing him to resign under a cloud of allegations of emotional and verbal abuse. So, the shakeup/clean out in leadership in the league continues. I was encouraged to note that one of Chicago's primary fan groups felt the need to admit that they played a role in pressurizing the atmosphere as well, particularly with the way they verbally harassed Christen Press after she left the club. This, IMO, is a big step towards accountability. Fans DO play a role and 100% can contribute to a negative atmosphere.

Now maybe something can be done about letting these abusive creeps walk away on their own terms.
 

jeffbear

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