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2021-22 Premiere League Thread

jeffbear

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Just like with former Villa legend John Terry, I've always loved Stevie G and have never said a negative thing about him in the past and you can't prove otherwise. Also, the reason England's midfield never worked was always because of Frank Lampard eating all the pies and not at all because of Stevie. The replay isn't available on peacock for another hour for some reason, but looking forward to watching the match. Villa were just desperate for new leadership. Dean Smith did well bringing Villa out of the championship, but the entire last season was really held together by Jack Grealish making everything happen.
Same ... or similar at least. I always had a bit of a soft spot for Stevie. It was mostly an awesome debut just because of the result, but I'll take it. If nothing else, he had a basic formational gameplan and stuck to it ... which was NOT what Smith had been doing. I'l always like Dean and he's a real Villa man to the core, but that thing of devising a completely different approach to every game was rubbish.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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Sunday's results
  • Manchester City 3 Everton 0
  • Tottenham Hotspur 2 Leeds United 1
City's win leapfrogs them into second, while Spurs get their first win under Conte. And not sure what's happened but right now, Leeds are fighting a losing battle when it comes to staying in the Prem. A shadow of last year's side.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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Tables after Matchweek #12

Premier League 2021/22
#TeamWDLFAGDPts
1Chelsea9213042629
2Manchester City8222561926
3Liverpool74135112425
4West Ham United7232314923
5Arsenal6241317-420
6Wolverhampton Wanderers6151212019
7Tottenham Hotspur6151117-619
8Manchester United5252021-117
9Brighton and Hove Albion4531214-217
10Crystal Palace3721817116
11Everton4351619-315
12Leicester City4351621-515
13Southampton3541114-314
14Brentford3451617-113
15Aston Villa4171620-413
16Watford4171620-413
17Leeds United2551220-811
18Burnley1651420-69
19Norwich City228727-208
20Newcastle United0661527-126
 
Same ... or similar at least. I always had a bit of a soft spot for Stevie. It was mostly an awesome debut just because of the result, but I'll take it. If nothing else, he had a basic formational gameplan and stuck to it ... which was NOT what Smith had been doing. I'l always like Dean and he's a real Villa man to the core, but that thing of devising a completely different approach to every game was rubbish.

I liked what I saw. McGinn was seemingly putting in dangerous balls every time he touched it and I liked the press and attack mentality that should only get more cohesive over time. I'm not saying that the ref screwed over Villa by any means (well, other than the attack that he allowed Brighton to continue for a long time while they had a player down injured in the box and then immediately stopped play when Villa won the ball and looked to break, that was ridiculous), but the way the game was refereed greatly favored Brighton. Brighton wanted to play a possession based game and Villa was looking to press and attack quickly and every time Villa took possession, Brighton was immediately fouling and the ref took almost the entire match before finally handing out a yellow and then did the thing where he makes sure the cards are equal so even though Brighton committed twice as many fouls in the game, both teams had three yellows. At some point, you have to say even though it's early in the game, it's going to be a yellow card if you're fouling to stop a counter attack each time otherwise you aren't allowing a team to play their gameplan.
 

jeffbear

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I think McGinn should benefit a great deal from the system Gerrard played at Rangers ... presuming that's where we're heading once things settle down. He generally played a double pivot with the midfield 3, with one guy rooted to more defensive duties while the pivots were free to combine with the wingers and the forward man a bit. McGinn is really good at that kind of triangle action when he's turned loose a bit. Not so sure who fits the other two roles, but Johnny should be solid. He's got a lot more to offer than what Smith was asking from him. Weirdly, I also think his system should fit Sanson well ... presuming he's not so alienated that he's already checked out. If not, Ramsey it is. He'll figure out how to track back at some point, one assumes.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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Watched part of the Villa match before I headed to the pub (60'). McGinn was super impressive. Cash and Mings looked good, too. Too bad Emi Buendia was off his game. Hopefully he'll get things sorted quickly. Really rated him highly coming into this season
 

jeffbear

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Buendia has been either hurt or terrible (or both) since the first international break. Not sure if that was down to Smith having no idea what to do with him or him just not being settled yet. I figure 3-4 games in a regular role being asked to do things he normally does would do the trick.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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Buendia has been either hurt or terrible (or both) since the first international break. Not sure if that was down to Smith having no idea what to do with him or him just not being settled yet. I figure 3-4 games in a regular role being asked to do things he normally does would do the trick.
I sure hope so. Was a huge fan of his from the last Norwich promotion. Had hoped we'd sign him for squad depth for the last few seasons. Was happy he signed for a big side like Villa (yeah, I said it).
 

andyt

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Man U has hired Ralf Rangnick as interim manager. He’ll have a 6 month contract and 2 year consultancy. He’s currently the head of sports and development at Lokomotiv Moscow but Man U doesn’t anticipate a problem getting him released. He‘ll miss the weekend’s match against Chelsea waiting for a work permit.
 

jeffbear

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Man U has hired Ralf Rangnick as interim manager. He’ll have a 6 month contract and 2 year consultancy. He’s currently the head of sports and development at Lokomotiv Moscow but Man U doesn’t anticipate a problem getting him released. He‘ll miss the weekend’s match against Chelsea waiting for a work permit.
Interesting. German manager who kind of kicked off the trend towards pressurized football in Germany, with the end result being Red Bull's high pressing, multi-club system. He got kicked upstairs a long time ago though, so he must have gotten a serious itch to get his hands dirty on the touch line again. Honestly, he's a guy that could signal a big sea change in how Man United go about their business .... or he could purely be a caretaker to keep them from coming off the rails even further and nothing more. If they are serious about making a directional change this could be the first of several changes ... or not. Who ever knows with this crowd?
 

andyt

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Interesting. German manager who kind of kicked off the trend towards pressurized football in Germany, with the end result being Red Bull's high pressing, multi-club system. He got kicked upstairs a long time ago though, so he must have gotten a serious itch to get his hands dirty on the touch line again. Honestly, he's a guy that could signal a big sea change in how Man United go about their business .... or he could purely be a caretaker to keep them from coming off the rails even further and nothing more. If they are serious about making a directional change this could be the first of several changes ... or not. Who ever knows with this crowd?

The Athletic has had a ton of coverage on him since the announcement. Apparantly he thought he was in the mix to replace Mourinho after he was sacked but they went with Solskjaer, who had an out in his contract with Molde if Man U called.

Rangnick has only coached 2 full and 2 partial seasons since leaving Hoffenheim in 2011. He finished the 2010-11 season with Schalke but left in September citing exhaustion. Since then, he had 2 spells with Leipzig, both times more or less as an interim even though they were full seasons.
 

jeffbear

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FWIW ... Gerrard followed up that first win at Villa with another. They leaked a goal to Palace late but took home the 2-1 win, and once again played a cohesive shape for the entire game. I knew I would probably like this change and thus far, it's working out.
 
Felt great, Villa looked dangerous and well structured. Very glad for VAR allowing the ref to rethink his atrocious red he gave out. Really excited to see what Villa can do as they all get more comfortable, but allowing for the small sample size, I'm very happy with the direction the team is heading in under Stevie G.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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Matchweek #13 results (sorry for the delayed post), with one fixture postponed (Spurs/Burnley) due to heavy snow

Sunday 28th November
Brentford 1-0 Everton
Leicester City 4-2 Watford
Manchester City 2-1 West Ham United
Chelsea 1-1 Manchester United

Saturday 27th November
Arsenal 2-0 Newcastle United
Crystal Palace 1-2 Aston Villa
Liverpool 4-0 Southampton
Norwich City 0-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Brighton and Hove Albion 0-0 Leeds United
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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This week's midweek fixtures

Tuesday 30th November
Newcastle United v Norwich City
Leeds United v Crystal Palace

Wednesday 1 December 2021
Southampton v Leicester
Watford v Chelsea
West Ham v Brighton
Wolves v Burnley
Aston Villa v Man City
Everton v Liverpool

Thursday 2 December 2021
Spurs v Brentford
Man U v Arsenal

Stevie G vs Manchester City. The Merseyside derby. And the Red Devils vs the Gooners. Good match week upcoming.
 

Ed H in Pasadena

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Yesterday's results
Leeds 1-0 Crystal Palace
Newcastle 1-1 Norwich

Big result for Leeds, trying to stay above relegation. And honors even at St. James doesn't do either club much good.
 

jeffbear

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Worth noting a couple of trends as we head into the Holiday Schedule Crush ... Everton are winless under Rafa and dropping like an anvil, while Norwich are showing sputtering signs of life in the relegation zone as they've discovered this thing called defending. Leeds and Southampton can't seem to generate offense and seem determined to expand the pool of relegation candidates ... Leeds' recent W not withstanding. Watford is fairly woeful defensively. It's getting interesting at the bottom end of the table. All it takes is a dead cat bounce from a couple of the presumed dead teams and things could get really weird, really quickly with the Holiday matches coming in thick and fast.

Up at the other end, if Chelsea and City keep up the defensive pace they're going to create some space I think. And if Man United could simply figure out a repeatable defensive system they could make up some ground pretty quickly, while you have to figure Spurs are going to remember how to score goals eventually. Neither Arsenal nor Wolves have looked like much despite their placement, so you have to figure there's some room for both Spurs and Man United to climb a bit and make things interesting at the lower end of the European placements.
 
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