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soco22

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They said the same against Pittsburgh.

Habs won without a single PP goal. The penalty kill was good though.

This isn’t Pittsburgh - why I’m saying that. Thinks 5 on 5 philli will grind more and get a better forecheck on the habs. Special teams will become more important
 

Preston

The Artist Formerly Known as Goldust
Hot takes get you paid. Dont worry. It's hockey. I think flyers are big time favorites but it's a 7 game series. Anything can happen.
 

leaffan2005

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Fool's Errands: The Roulette Wheel Crank
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
Those are the risks you need to take if you want to buy the dip on a player

It's not a stock though. It's a human being that is near guaranteed to decline and be useless within the next couple of years. Niskanen is almost 34.

This is simple risk reward, if you're the Leafs, with the Leafs cap structure, you can't afford to spend 5.75m on a defender who might have just shown their first signs of decline.

Yeah, it would be great if we could get all of the players we want, but there's a thing called the cap.
 
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MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
I'm not sure there was a dip with Petry; more like an IPO that took a while to get going.

The other thing of course is that Petry was 27. If there was a "dip" a bounce back is much, much more likely a 28-30 than it is from 33-35
 

MyNameIsJonas

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It's not a stock though. It's a human being that is near guaranteed to decline and be useless within the next couple of years. Niskanen is almost 34.

This is simple risk reward, if you're the Leafs, with the Leafs cap structure, you can't afford to spend 5.75m on a defender who might have just shown their first signs of decline.

Yeah, it would be great if we could get all of the players we want, but there's a thing called the cap.
Someone had to take Zautsev.

Ceci trade still brilliant
 

Preston

The Artist Formerly Known as Goldust
The Niskanens, Weber's and muzzin's of the world should be fine by that age. Worthwhile risk to take if the potential upside is high enough. Maintaining status quo on this d corps ain't it. And neither is trading a core player for a top four d. So make your bold move. Buy dips. Do your homework and take a risk. This guy was a year off from being an elite #1 d and he was traded for fucking gudas.

Instead of spending 4.5 on Ceci and 10+ mil on your third line, maybe spending a little extra on a top four d is a more efficient use of cap space. They can fit him. And he doesnt have to be a #1 or 2 d to be worth his contract. He's underpaid right now. Maybe he'll be overpaid later but I dont mind his odds of being half decent in his last year or two for a player of his caliber.
 
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MyNameIsJonas

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The Niskanens, Weber's and muzzin's of the world should be fine by that age. Worthwhile risk to take if the potential upside is high enough. Maintaining status quo on this d corps ain't it. And neither is trading a core player for a top four d. So make your bold move. Buy dips. Do your homework and take a risk. This guy was a year off from being an elite #1 d and he was traded for fucking gudas.

Instead of spending 4.5 on Ceci and 10+ mil on your third line, maybe spending a little extra on a top four d makes some sense. They can fit him. And he doesnt have to be a #1 or 2 d to be worth his contract. He's underpaid right now. Maybe he'll be overpaid later but I dont mind his odds of being half decent at that age for a player of his caliber.
Bet the Wild would guve away Suter
 

Habsy

Wrong Thinker Extraordinaire
I would like them to win one more series. I still don't think they have the horses but the experience the young guys are getting could be more valuable than the #9 pick. Especially the way the Habs draft in the first.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
The Niskanens, Weber's and muzzin's of the world should be fine by that age

One of those things is not like the others. As for Muzzin, call me when he's 34. Aging curves are a thing.

So make your bold move. Buy dips.

And if Niskanen's "dip" had been decline, you'd be calling Dubas an idiot for giving up good assets to get a defender who was clearly on his last legs.

We just didn't have the cap structure to add him. I don't disagree with the idea of adding someone coming off of a down season to take a chance on them necessarily. But I definitely disagree with giving up good assets to get a 32 yr old coming off of a down season, signed for 3 more years at 5.75. That could have been a cap shredding move if it went sideways.
 
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