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He's a good coach but he is overrated. Any coach that makes elite rush players dump and chase and makes it so they don't want to play for him can only be so good.
 

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It is just kinda crazy what the Avs did. At the beginning of the year they had major cap issues because Landeskog and Nishushkin were out but might come back, so they were a super thin team, with one center and no goalie.

So he trades Rantanen, opens up cap space and gets Necas, three centers (Nelson, Coyle, and Drury) and a starting goalie.

Who knows if it will pay off, but its crazy how aggressive the teams that have won recently are (Avs, Florida (Reinhart, Jones, Tkachuk), Tampa (Sergachev/Stamkos -> McDonagh/Gunetzel), Vegas(everything)) vs how unagressive the Leafs are at changing a roster thats never won more than 5 playoff games.
 
eh i dunno. the "big change" seems to be losing Rantanen, which i don't know is all that great.



Changes from last year:

M.Rantanen --- M.Necas
C.Mittelstadt --- B.Nelson
Z.Parise --- C.Coyle

Y.Trenin --- J.Drury
B.Duhaime --- P.Kelly
A.Cogliano --- J.Vesey


S.Walker --- R.Lindgren
C.Jones --- S.Malinski


A.Georgiev --- M.Blackwood
J.Annunen --- S.Wedgewood

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Leafs have completely overhauled their dcorps, changed starting goalies, and probably what will amount to one additional forward line compared to last playoffs.

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You can't seriously say that Avs management wasn't crazy aggressive this year, or that Leafs management is aggressive. Thats the point. I said it might not work.

The Avs and Lighting both made massive, core changing moves this year. Florida and Vegas always swing big.

Those teams also happen to be the last 5 cup winners.
 
leafman101 said:

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Its kinda funny that Carolina is always like "we need elite skill, we need elite skill" and they had a player with elite skill and didn't like him.
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Not exactly sure what that X post is trying to get at? Necas made that move all the time with the Canes and turned the puck over as many times as he created a scoring chance. I assume that poster won't post any of the reckless turnovers?
 
Skilled players try things and turn the puck over.

The top 10 forwards in 5v5 givaways this year are Mackinnon, Kucherov, Pastrnak, Celebrini, Scheifele, Forsberg, Svechnikov, Hagel, Draisaitl and Marner.
 
I don't know that Necas is doing anything different in Colorado other than getting a whole whack more ice time.

And even then, his production is down, especially at evens.
 
leafman101 said:
You can't seriously say that Avs management wasn't crazy aggressive this year, or that Leafs management is aggressive. Thats the point. I said it might not work.

The Avs and Lighting both made massive, core changing moves this year. Florida and Vegas always swing big.

Those teams also happen to be the last 5 cup winners.
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both teams changed their starting goalies.

Both teams overhauled their bottom 6 forwards.

Leafs overhauled their 2nd and 3rd pairing dmen, Avs tinkered with a change to one #4/5 dman.

The Avs did make two big changes to their top-6 forwards, but one of those changes was a downgrade.
 
zeke said:
eh i dunno. the "big change" seems to be losing Rantanen, which i don't know is all that great.



Changes from last year:

M.Rantanen --- M.Necas
C.Mittelstadt --- B.Nelson
Z.Parise --- C.Coyle

Y.Trenin --- J.Drury
B.Duhaime --- P.Kelly
A.Cogliano --- J.Vesey


S.Walker --- R.Lindgren
C.Jones --- S.Malinski


A.Georgiev --- M.Blackwood
J.Annunen --- S.Wedgewood

​

Leafs have completely overhauled their dcorps, changed starting goalies, and probably what will amount to one additional forward line compared to last playoffs.

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Unless or until the Leafs trade, let walk, or otherwise replace one of 16, 34, 88, or 91 then any changes they make amount to rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

The Avs have overhauled. The Leafs have merely tinkered. They tried to turn Marner into Rantanen and Marner blocked them. Every other move they've made is irrelevant. Adding Laughton and Carlo doesn't address the elephant in the room.

Now this summer, when they get told by Marner's dad that there will be no hometown discount, Treleving will have no choice but to use the money he was going to blow on 8 more years of Marner and plot a new direction for the team.

Until then, expect more of the same postseason results you've been getting
 
When it comes to FLA, how much about trading for Reinhart/Tkachuk is absolutely just luck that those players became available to trade?
 
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