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Because Lou has done so well on the Island?

The comment was made talking amongst friends dude. This is first hand knowledge.

Hughes thinks the Toronto GM position is the hardest in the league due to expections. He had no reason to sugar coat it talking to people he's known since childhood.

According to Kent Hughes, Dubas has the hardest job in the league and he has the perspective of both GM and Agent.
And Hughes is wrong. The Leafs are owned and operated by a board of directors who don't really give a shit about wins and losses anywhere but on a balance sheet. They want the team to succeed on the ice inasmuch as it drives revenues. Otherwise it doesn't care. And because Leafs fans and media are so slavishly devoted and easily placated the franchise is "winning" where it counts before a puck is ever dropped. Win or lose that team is a license to print money. There is no real incentive to make big changes when the current model is working so well.

If and when losing on the ice starts to negatively impact the bottom line, then real changes will happen and then the GM will be in a truly tough spot to win or die. But right now it's just a parlor game. MLSE is flush with cash and there's never an empty seat no matter how well or badly the team performs.

By contrast, and even though there are other owners, Geoff Molson is the face of the franchise in Montreal and when the team doesn't win enough it's not a reflection on "ownership", it's a reflection on Geoff Molson personally. So anyone who has to report to him is on the hot seat from the get-go because both they and he are known quantities among the fan and media base. There's no faceless "Board" to hide behind. And while Habs fans love their team they don't love them in the same unconditional way that Leafs fans love their team. A Habs fan's love is conditional and transactional and based largely on how much and how often the team wins. When that doesn't happen enough, it impacts the bottom line. Seats go unsold and fans get angry, not philosophical, if they perceive that not enough is being done to fix it.

The pressure in Montreal is real. The pressure in Toronto is largely performative. It's the difference between using a stunt man to jump off a bridge versus using CGI to make it appear as though someone jumped off a bridge. In short, Dubas' job looks hard. Hughes' job actually is hard.
 
Matthews is not the problem, he is their best player so teams will focus on him and that is on the coach to out coach the other team to allow Matthews space to play his game.. Marner and Nylander are soft in mind and body... one of the two needs to be traded to address the D or Goaltending, I would trade Nylander.. they should never of let go of Hyman .
And yet Nylander is the only one of the core who elevates his game during the playoffs. But as a Euro, he is far easier to trade without an uproar from the fans than one of the "good Canadian boys".
 
so you're telling me that past playoff performance is not a likely indicator of future playoff performance? in that case, I don't understand why you think we should move on from our super talented top-four forwards, right?
The problem with the Leafs' super talented top-four forwards is that they stop being super talented after game #82 is in the books and start being super-lazy, super-disinterested and super-mediocre. The Leafs don't need a Matthews to sell tickets so if all he's good for are regular season goals he is a waste of cap space.
 
Maybe….just maybe Dumb-ass should spend less time trying to suck up to the LGBTQABC123 woke f*cks, and more time finding a player or 2 as Duke Snyder used to say, “with hair on his balls”

Teams don’t go to playoff war with chicken Swedes like Pierre Engval & Rasmus Sandin …. yes Lekhonen type playoff warriors are a must.

Oh yeah Arturri didn’t meet Make Beliefs analytics paradise requirements…
Finns are generally tougher than Swedes and more likely to show up when it matters.
 
The problem with the Leafs' super talented top-four forwards is that they stop being super talented after game #82 is in the books and start being super-lazy, super-disinterested and super-mediocre. The Leafs don't need a Matthews to sell tickets so if all he's good for are regular season goals he is a waste of cap space.

Still waiting after 6 years for one star on Toronto to dominate in the playoffs or even a few deciding games and win a series

They lost to Nick fucken Paul last year , the big guns have done squat in clutch times
 
Still waiting after 6 years for one star on Toronto to dominate in the playoffs or even a few deciding games and win a series

They lost to Nick fucken Paul last year , the big guns have done squat in clutch times
No argument here. Big boys need to step up.
 
Isn’t that what fans are supposed to do?
No, actually. Neither the fans or media are there to lick the team's balls. They are there to hold them to standards and to mete out punishment when those standards are not met. If a team merely wants its fans to "enjoy the ride" then they shouldn't be charging an arm and a leg for tickets. As soon as you ask me for money I ask for things in return. I demand them, actually. And if I don't get them then I want someone fired. The only aspects of "the ride" I enjoy are winning championships and drinking Leafs fans tears. Otherwise I want someone punished.
 
No, actually. Neither the fans or media are there to lick the team's balls. They are there to hold them to standards and to mete out punishment when those standards are not met. If a team merely wants its fans to "enjoy the ride" then they shouldn't be charging an arm and a leg for tickets. As soon as you ask me for money I ask for things in return. I demand them, actually. And if I don't get them then I want someone fired. The only aspects of "the ride" I enjoy are winning championships and drinking Leafs fans tears. Otherwise I want someone punished.
You live in a weird world. As a fan I want to be entertained. This version of the Leafs remains among, if not the, most entertaining Leafs teams of my lifetime.

Also, I barely spend a penny supporting Bettman or the NHL either.
 
And Hughes is wrong. The Leafs are owned and operated by a board of directors who don't really give a shit about wins and losses anywhere but on a balance sheet. They want the team to succeed on the ice inasmuch as it drives revenues. Otherwise it doesn't care. And because Leafs fans and media are so slavishly devoted and easily placated the franchise is "winning" where it counts before a puck is ever dropped. Win or lose that team is a license to print money. There is no real incentive to make big changes when the current model is working so well.

If and when losing on the ice starts to negatively impact the bottom line, then real changes will happen and then the GM will be in a truly tough spot to win or die. But right now it's just a parlor game. MLSE is flush with cash and there's never an empty seat no matter how well or badly the team performs.

By contrast, and even though there are other owners, Geoff Molson is the face of the franchise in Montreal and when the team doesn't win enough it's not a reflection on "ownership", it's a reflection on Geoff Molson personally. So anyone who has to report to him is on the hot seat from the get-go because both they and he are known quantities among the fan and media base. There's no faceless "Board" to hide behind. And while Habs fans love their team they don't love them in the same unconditional way that Leafs fans love their team. A Habs fan's love is conditional and transactional and based largely on how much and how often the team wins. When that doesn't happen enough, it impacts the bottom line. Seats go unsold and fans get angry, not philosophical, if they perceive that not enough is being done to fix it.

The pressure in Montreal is real. The pressure in Toronto is largely performative. It's the difference between using a stunt man to jump off a bridge versus using CGI to make it appear as though someone jumped off a bridge. In short, Dubas' job looks hard. Hughes' job actually is hard.
Fuck off

What a waste of a read. If you want to discuss Hockey stop making your posts so ridiculously insane.
 
You live in a weird world. As a fan I want to be entertained. This version of the Leafs remains among, if not the, most entertaining Leafs teams of my lifetime.

Also, I barely spend a penny supporting Bettman or the NHL either.
Truly insane where the Leafs are concerned. Waste of time
 
If you want to know a bit more, a certain GM in this league said Gorton > Shanny to work with.
 
Fuck off

What a waste of a rear. If you want to discuss Hockey stop making your posts so ridiculously insane.
"Fuck off" is not a counterargument.

I've lived in both markets. Toronto is a joke. At the end of the day all it takes is a 3 game unbeaten streak to make everything go away. The fans and media in that city are so easy to fob off it's not even funny. Their standards are lower than a horny guy in a nightclub at closing time.
 
You live in a weird world. As a fan I want to be entertained. This version of the Leafs remains among, if not the, most entertaining Leafs teams of my lifetime.

Also, I barely spend a penny supporting Bettman or the NHL either.
And that's your problem right there. You're satisfied with merely being "entertained". I guess that explains a lot of Leafs history over the past 50 years or so. I remember when Harold Ballard wanted Roger Neilson to wear a paper bag over his head behind the bench. Entertaining as fuck but it did nothing to help the team win and his eventual firing of Neilson did even less. Sold a lot of papers though.

I went to a lot of Habs games during the 85-86 season and they weren't very entertaining. It was a very pedestrian team that didn't even break 90 points and didn't have a 50 goal scorer (50 goal scorers were a lot more common then) But they got real entertaining once the playoffs started and they won the Cup. Then and only then was I able to say that I had been truly "entertained". The Cup parade was pretty fucking entertaining too.
 
"Fuck off" is not a counterargument.

I've lived in both markets. Toronto is a joke. At the end of the day all it takes is a 3 game unbeaten streak to make everything go away. The fans and media in that city are so easy to fob off it's not even funny. Their standards are lower than a horny guy in a nightclub at closing time.
I don’t argue against the existence of the Easter Bunny either so what’s left? Fuck off with that drivel is what’s next.

And you failed at living in the GTA. Proud moment.
 
I don’t argue against the existence of the Easter Bunny either so what’s left? Fuck off with that drivel is what’s next.

And you failed at living in the GTA. Proud moment.
I didn't "fail". I never wanted to live there in the first place. I couldn't wait to leave. If I didn't still have family there I'd never even visit the place.
 
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