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Around The League - 2024-25 Regular Season

GEEMAN said:
What the heck is he fighting for an extra mil if the moon lines up

This isnt Matthews who bagged his money and made 25 mil in endorsements

He is a decent second liner no more , turning down probably 7x7 right now thats stupid dumb

Klingberg, Hall, Mark Tinordi , and I am sure plenty others turned down term and got burnt

Bergeron and others got thier 8 year deal
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He wouldn’t turn down a 7x7 if it was a no tax market I’m sure …. which disqualifies Buf, Winter-peg & CBJ…
 
GEEMAN said:
He may have to settle for what he can in 2 years if his stupid experiment fails
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Sure there’s some risk but as GGPx said we’re not talking MMA level risk factors for injuries, and he’s betting on himself as he approaches his prime… that last part won’t be lost on teams looking to sign him as UFA or trade for him prior to…

Also did Canes actually offer Necas 7x7, and was it bonus structured as I’m sure he’s seeking, cause Dundon doesn’t do bonu$ contracts?
 
GEEMAN said:
What the heck is he fighting for an extra mil if the moon lines up

This isnt Matthews who bagged his money and made 25 mil in endorsements

He is a decent second liner no more , turning down probably 7x7 right now thats stupid dumb

Klingberg, Hall, Mark Tinordi , and I am sure plenty others turned down term and got burnt

Bergeron and others got thier 8 year deal
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Klingberg lost out on his retirement deal because his agent was an imbecile who he overplayed his hand. He was then fired shortly afterwards. Unfortunately for him, though, he had a bad year + a series of injuries that derailed his career afterwards. If you want to use him as an example, despite being a bad example, fine.

Taylor Hall? The same Taylor Hall who will have made $85M in career earnings when his contract ends this year? The same Taylor Hall who only played in a single full 82 game season in his career? And who is probably going to get another multi-year contract within the next 12 months and reach $100M in career earnings? This is your example of "take the money, injuries will mess with you!"?

Mark Tinordi, don't know what the financials were back then. Can't say whether you're right or wrong.

Your thesis doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.

Even in prospects, how many hockey prospects lose out on their careers due to getting injured too often? Joey Hishon, Nolan Patrick, who else? Maybe some prospects saw injuries cut their potential NHL earnings, but can still play pro in North America or Europe.

But the fact is, despite a long history of injuries, those players almost always get paid.
 
Sal_Butera said:
Sure there’s some risk but as GGPx said we’re not talking MMA level risk factors for injuries, and he’s betting on himself as he approaches his prime… that last part won’t be lost on teams looking to sign him as UFA or trade for him prior to…

Also did Canes actually offer Necas 7x7, and was it bonus structured as I’m sure he’s seeking, cause Dundon doesn’t do bonu$ contracts?
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MMA doesn't have too many injury risks, relatively. But it's also a sport where the fighters compete (at the high levels, anyway) 3 or 4 times at the very most in a year. Since the UFC is a monopsony and the fighters might as well be MAGA flag bearers who think unions are evil, the UFC has such a firm grasp on them and the money they make, virtually none of the fighters in the UFC truly get their fair share.

Football's the only real sport you can point to where players have to get paid ASAP because the risk is too high and there are far too many players available for far too few roster positions.
 
GGpX said:
Klingberg lost out on his retirement deal because his agent was an imbecile who he overplayed his hand. He was then fired shortly afterwards. Unfortunately for him, though, he had a bad year + a series of injuries that derailed his career afterwards. If you want to use him as an example, despite being a bad example, fine.

Taylor Hall? The same Taylor Hall who will have made $85M in career earnings when his contract ends this year? The same Taylor Hall who only played in a single full 82 game season in his career? And who is probably going to get another multi-year contract within the next 12 months and reach $100M in career earnings? This is your example of "take the money, injuries will mess with you!"?

Mark Tinordi, don't know what the financials were back then. Can't say whether you're right or wrong.

Your thesis doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.

Even in prospects, how many hockey prospects lose out on their careers due to getting injured too often? Joey Hishon, Nolan Patrick, who else? Maybe some prospects saw injuries cut their potential NHL earnings, but can still play pro in North America or Europe.

But the fact is, despite a long history of injuries, those players almost always get paid.
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Thank you
 
GGpX said:
Klingberg lost out on his retirement deal because his agent was an imbecile who he overplayed his hand. He was then fired shortly afterwards. Unfortunately for him, though, he had a bad year + a series of injuries that derailed his career afterwards. If you want to use him as an example, despite being a bad example, fine.

Taylor Hall? The same Taylor Hall who will have made $85M in career earnings when his contract ends this year? The same Taylor Hall who only played in a single full 82 game season in his career? And who is probably going to get another multi-year contract within the next 12 months and reach $100M in career earnings? This is your example of "take the money, injuries will mess with you!"?

Mark Tinordi, don't know what the financials were back then. Can't say whether you're right or wrong.

Your thesis doesn't hold up to the slightest bit of scrutiny.

Even in prospects, how many hockey prospects lose out on their careers due to getting injured too often? Joey Hishon, Nolan Patrick, who else? Maybe some prospects saw injuries cut their potential NHL earnings, but can still play pro in North America or Europe.

But the fact is, despite a long history of injuries, those players almost always get paid.
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Hall isnt going to a food bank but he pissed away 60 mil not inking in Zona

Klingberg is just a fool for not telling his agent to sign the fucken contract , both are not getting that money back

My point is the NHL is not the sport you fuck around when you havent secured your bag like Necas who is not a front liner

These yutes coming out of ELC like Slaf , Hughes , etc ... played it right .....get your bag and sleep at night

Plenty more to be had if your still productive at 29/30
 
there is no right answer...everyone rolls with their personal risk tolerance

My hunch is that Necas views himself as a 75 pt guy (two yrs ago) vs the 55 point guy he was last year.

If he's wrong, he'll still get paid! He'll be 27 and the cap is going up
 
The chart does go a long way to explaining why Canadian teams never win Cups anymore. They can't often lure top-tier UFA's in the summer and damn near every player in the league has a no trade clause with all the Canadian teams on it.
 
Eric Staal will be signing a one-day deal with Carolina before officially retiring, and they'll be retiring his jersey at some point this season.
 
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