Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season
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Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Alan C
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Looking at the list of restrictions to enable him to play makes me wonder. How you can manipulate a labour market to this extent? An adult only able to play in a specific league for a team screams labour malpractice. I wonder how many years this will continue before it is challenged n court. An elimination of the draft and a free agent pool of players negotiating with the entire league come eligible age. On the hockey side I'm excited about Beck. Have a good feeling he will be a solid 2 way guy for us.
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Sal_Butera
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NHLPA has negotiated this agreement…
I don't know. You can look at it like the NHL being a company. You can apply to work at the company, but you don't always have a choice about what department (team) you work in. If you are really good at your job, you eventually have much more control over which department you work in.
If you don't like that company, you can go to a different company (league.)
Of course it's not 100% like regular careers... but most young professionals aren't exactly able to work exactly where they want. They get out of school and have to work shittier jobs for shittier companies until they become proven vets that can choose where they want to work.
If you don't like that company, you can go to a different company (league.)
Of course it's not 100% like regular careers... but most young professionals aren't exactly able to work exactly where they want. They get out of school and have to work shittier jobs for shittier companies until they become proven vets that can choose where they want to work.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
lol...there's no pretext about "privilege"
it's about helping to create parity that fosters more competition between teams: the worst teams get the best young players (just like the worst teams get first crack at the waiver wire)
get rid of the draft, you might as well get rid of the salary cap (another 'weird' socialist style artifact), and get used to a few super teams that dominate their respective leagues year in and year out.
at the end of the day, the draft is there to improve the overall product and create fan interest
a bigger revenue pie helps most players and owners
it's about helping to create parity that fosters more competition between teams: the worst teams get the best young players (just like the worst teams get first crack at the waiver wire)
get rid of the draft, you might as well get rid of the salary cap (another 'weird' socialist style artifact), and get used to a few super teams that dominate their respective leagues year in and year out.
at the end of the day, the draft is there to improve the overall product and create fan interest
a bigger revenue pie helps most players and owners
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
I wish I was as privileged as the poor 18 year old servant who gets drafted #1 overall (or 212th for that matter) by San Jose
Sal_Butera
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Funny you mention that, I recall vividly being told a story by the father of a then young Sharks Dman in 2006, who was drafted a short while before, the local hockey card rep had dropped off some 500 cards for him to sign and a wad of ca$h in the 10s of thousands.
The nameless player didn’t know what to do with the $$$, since the team paid for everything, even during the offseason, trainers, car & gas, food per diem etc.
So he handed the wad over to his dad, who jokingly told me “he’s going to make more this (rookie) year than I’ve made in my working career”.
Its that “privileged” hockey life that keeps the likes of Pouliot, Chad Kilger’s going even though they’re not 100% dedicated to continuous improvement principles…
Alan C
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Do they not only represent nhl players?
Players can work at Costco for $ 20 an hour if they wish
Might take them 20 years to match a year salary , but hey its their choice of employment
Or they can wait and be an RFA /UFA every year and whore themselves out
Alan C
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Ha ha it s funny people are wil\ ing to say fuck your rights its about parity. Or fuck your rights you can go work for minimum wage. Honestly I do't give a shit eaither way but the dynamic and response is very interesting.
But it is about competitive balance, and without it, the industry would be less profitable as a whole, which would negatively impact player compensation overall. So the players actually benefit later on from not being able to choose where they play early on in their careers.
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Alan C
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Ahh the classic case of labour vs capitol. The draft continues to be structured to enable poorly managed teams first access to the best talent, and not by accident. Thus the argument that competitive balance takes precedent. Every team has benefit from guaranteed lower wages for a period of time.
There was an similar attempt to control wages in silicone valley with the no hire agreement. Those with more power controlling those with less. INot much public sympathy for people making more than average Americans. f the general populace or in this case sporting fan can be convinced its good, all the more chance at success. People feel outrage at factory workers conditions and rightfully so. Hard to build sympathy for those making more than we feel is warranted in the real world. Not saying i am not equally as guilty. I have complained about players who don't perform being overpaid like Drouin.
Are you a college econ. prof.?
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
No but he fucked one in college. That count?
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
I hope not because comparing Silicon Valley to the NHL is asinine
but the drafted player
I think you would agree Krust, that under US law it probably breaches anti-trust law in a general sense. The players in the league are fucked but if a 17 year old says, hey when I am 18 you cannot keep me from choosing where I go, how would a court decide? Of course, I am sure they have dotted enough i's and t's to get by a court.
projecting again Habsy?