Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season

[lecoqsportif]

Need more Dach deals or players to fit our timeline

Yah, that’s what I meant by “young vet”. I meant young NHLer, likely a reclamation project. My poor choice of words. Anyway, then need to fit into the 21-24 age group.

 

[GGpX]

You figure out a way. Send St. Louis a late draft pick for exclusive negotiating rights before he becomes a free agent, sell him on Montreal, offer him an 8 year deal (which he won't get on the market), pay 95% of his contract in signing bonuses.

 

[Habsy]

Gallagher's either going to head to Robidas Island, or getting bought out after the 2024-2025 season when the cap penalties aren't too steep.

I'd be shocked if he gets moved. I just don't think you can move him, even if you wanted to.

If you can move Monahan you can move Gallagher. It'll just cost you a first.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

A team like the Habs need to be collecting first round picks, not getting rid of them.

 

[Habsy]

I think there's two pairings that seem to be headed for a collision course, maybe even as early as next season, but I might be a hair too optimistic:

Guhle-Mailloux
Hutson-Reinbacher

Not next season with Matheson signed. Plus I think Hutson needs time in the AHL for D development.

Reinbacher strikes me as another Guhle in that he's ahead of the curve for his age. I can see why teams wanted him but I question the pick at five. He projects as a can't miss D though so it looks like they went safe yet again.

 

[lecoqsportif]

But, it looks like the rebuild’s foundation is the D. GGxP’s group likely won’t be ready next year, but they could be there for 5-8 years.

 

[Habsy]

But, it looks like the rebuild’s foundation is the D. GGxP’s group likely won’t be ready next year, but they could be there for 5-8 years.

Sure they're building from the back end like Carolina did but you need a goalie too, like Carolina is learning.

I'm not crazy about the continuing first round "we're smarter" type picks still happening but we literally got screwed by going fifth. Top 4 was set.

 

[GGpX]

If you can move Monahan you can move Gallagher. It'll just cost you a first.

Not even comparable situations.

Monahan, with one year left on his contract, was moved for a first round pick three years in the future.

You could move him to Philly tomorrow if he accepted to waive his NMC, but it would cost you Reinbacher.

 

[GGpX]

Not next season with Matheson signed. Plus I think Hutson needs time in the AHL for D development.

Reinbacher strikes me as another Guhle in that he's ahead of the curve for his age. I can see why teams wanted him but I question the pick at five. He projects as a can't miss D though so it looks like they went safe yet again.

Like I said, probably a hair too optimistic for next season.

But that seems where we're headed with those four.

 

[Habsy]

Not even comparable situations.

Monahan, with one year left on his contract, was moved for a first round pick three years in the future.

You could move him to Philly tomorrow if he accepted to waive his NMC, but it would cost you Reinbacher.

Yes they are. Monahan has hip issues in both hips. Very comparable. Age irrelevant in an asset view point. Damaged goods.

 

[GGpX]

No... Not comparable at all, not even in a little bit.

1 year @ $6.35M as opposed to 4 years at $6.5M.

You want to get rid of Gallagher? You ain't finding anyone in hockey that would take him for a 2026 conditional first round pick.

 

[Habsy]

Probably not until he shows he can still score. It'll take that first and retention. Or a prospect.

 

[GGpX]

It'll take David Reinbacher. End of story.

Take San Jose: Would you take Marc-Edouard Vlasic's $7M x 3 years contract for a conditional 2026 first?

I sure as hell wouldn't. But if they gave me a conditional 2026 1st, 2nd & Quentin Musty? Oh absolutely.

 

[Habsy]

Robidas Island his ass.

We all knew the last 3-4 years of his contract were going to hurt. They paid him retroactively because he was a steal at 4.5m and 30g.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

Sure they're building from the back end like Carolina did but you need a goalie too, like Carolina is learning.

I'm not crazy about the continuing first round "we're smarter" type picks still happening but we literally got screwed by going fifth. Top 4 was set.

The Habs always seem to be a year late (or early) and a draft order short of getting the needle mover they desperately require.

 

[GGpX]

Robidas Island his ass.

We all knew the last 3-4 years of his contract were going to hurt. They paid him retroactively because he was a steal at 4.5m and 30g.

That seems to be the most logical outcome, yes.

But then we go back to the situation we had with Weber & Price: It's a lot of money to have LTIR.

 

[GGpX]

The thing with Gallagher is, despite some like legoalie thinking otherwise, it was so easy to predict. The same way a second contract for running backs in the NFL almost never works out, everyone should have known that giving Gallagher that contract was a bad idea.

 

[Krustchev]

Sure they're building from the back end like Carolina did but you need a goalie too, like Carolina is learning.

I'm not crazy about the continuing first round "we're smarter" type picks still happening but we literally got screwed by going fifth. Top 4 was set.

Top 5 was set we just got scared.

 

[CH1]

The thing with Gallagher is, despite some like legoalie thinking otherwise, it was so easy to predict. The same way a second contract for running backs in the NFL almost never works out, everyone should have known that giving Gallagher that contract was a bad idea.

doesn't Marchand play a similar game....and he sprouted into a legit superstar

 

[GGpX]

doesn't Marchand play a similar game....and he sprouted into a legit superstar

No, he definitely doesn't.

Beyond being the same size, they don't play a similar game at all.

And even if he did, every now and again, you get a Christian MacCaffrey or Adrian Peterson that can still run wild well into his late 20s / early 30s. They are the exception and not the rule.