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Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season

Habsy said:
Who replaces Evans @3m?
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Gourde for 2 years not 4 years

Seriously the Habs are not winning cup anytime soon , cant tie up the cap on a secondary support player for years at 3-4 mil

I dont care what market value is , dont want any part of an extra year or 1 or a mil or so when we are not contenders

Fix the talent first then tinker with the secondary stuff
 
why do people care how much we pay players, we have to spend the cap anyway, the money isn't saved. My only issue with keeping Evans and Armia is that sooner or later, the AHL types have to get into the NHL lineup, Mailloux and Beck should be there next year.

Right now, we have four UFAs, no more than two should be with us next year.
 
Habsy said:
Uh, the cap goes to the players, not the owners. Solid ass talking there.
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Dont be stupid and stop making cap mistakes , your like Nero
Who cares about a rising cap if you pay the wrong player
Habsy said:
We don't have those guys hence you spread the money around to better tier two players.
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Then get them first because until the talent pool gets better Jake fucken Evans isnt moving any needle

You need a depth player get them at the deadline when your ready to compete
Habsy said:
Which we don't. Go be a Devils fan or stick to your PS5
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STFU you know exactly the value I am talking about
Habsy said:
Why does everything have to be a bargain to you? It's not good business to undermine employee value at every step.
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Its not a bargain at all , its asset management
Habsy said:
Your assumption that all players willing to work cheaper are equivalent is a gross miscalculation and simply a fallacy. Experience and skills vary.
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BS once again , every UFA period players are starving for work on the cheap that provide value and production
Habsy said:
This is a cherry picking joke right? We all know the line of 11-28-17 is our bad contract line and if they could be dumped for cheaper alternatives they would be.

You continue to express unrealistic opinions to the state of the NHL landscape and teams and portray a fanboy type fantasy hockey world. Be real for once. Not everything in life can be had at a bargain and your continual wont for cheaper replacements is not how you win a cup. you keep pointing to a Boston team that hasn't won shit in 14 years and is in a rapid decline doing precisely what you're recommending.
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We havent won shit for 30 years and your bitching about the Bruins with a cup , multiple finals and a solid run for 15 years on value contracts

I gave you a perfect example how allocating asset dollars can work and your still whining like a 4 year old
Which group of 4 do you want for similar production .....the 5 mil Bruins or the 20 mil Habs with 2 more years to on Gally and Anderson .

Cmon its proven every year there are good players on your bottom 6 available that you dont have to overpay
I will gladly overpay the right player in the right situation .
Habsy said:
I reject your continual spendthrift analyses and find them extremely banal. Even if the Habs did what you want and proved you wrong in doing it you'd just move the goalposts. Again.
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I wouldnt be moving any goals posts whatsoever , if the move is right

I have zero issue with any contract Hugo handed out in their tenure from Slaf to Cole to Monty , Guhle , etc.....
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
why do people care how much we pay players, we have to spend the cap anyway, the money isn't saved. My only issue with keeping Evans and Armia is that sooner or later, the AHL types have to get into the NHL lineup, Mailloux and Beck should be there next year.

Right now, we have four UFAs, no more than two should be with us next year.
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I doubt they'll keep both Evans and Armia. Beck can replace either, although more Evans.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
why do people care how much we pay players, we have to spend the cap anyway, the money isn't saved. My only issue with keeping Evans and Armia is that sooner or later, the AHL types have to get into the NHL lineup, Mailloux and Beck should be there next year.

Right now, we have four UFAs, no more than two should be with us next year.
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I have found it to be a Canadian fan phenomenon - Americans it’s spend whatever it takes to get xx
 
Guinch said:
If we keep Evans, Beck can just replace Dvorak...

As for Armia, if hes cheap why not.. otherwise theres definitely some guys that can replace him, Kapanen for example.
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I simply cannot overstate how good Armia is on the boards. It'll take a rook years to learn that but yeah. 3m max for Armia. That's why I think he's gone. I doubt he goes that low.
 
Habsy said:
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simply cannot overstate how good Armia is on the boards. It'll take a rook years to learn that but yeah. 3m max for Armia. That's why o think he's gone. I doubt he goes that low.
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Also cannot teach Armia’s 6’4” frame and wingspan - he’s one strong ox.

Other than Tuch & Xhekaj Habs don’t have any such giant sized prospects in the pipeline let alone the skill level Army possesses
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
why do people care how much we pay players, we have to spend the cap anyway, the money isn't saved. My only issue with keeping Evans and Armia is that sooner or later, the AHL types have to get into the NHL lineup, Mailloux and Beck should be there next year.

Right now, we have four UFAs, no more than two should be with us next year.
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I care because there is only so much cap to go around. Next couple of years I don't care. Sign Evans for 2 years 5m. We have a finite cap to sign hutson, Demidov, DR, Laine, and/or others
 
Habsy said:
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simply cannot overstate how good Armia is on the boards. It'll take a rook years to learn that but yeah. 3m max for Armia. That's why o think he's gone. I doubt he goes that low.
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Term is what I care about

Armia at 34 probably isn't that good
 
GrandWazoo said:
2yx3 I'd do it. 3x3 I'd think about it. That's it. The way he's playing *right now* is valuable, but it's Armia and you never know when he'll revert to a ghost.
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Eller is a similar player and is still going and often traded. As long as there is no NMC I'm confident he can be moved in a final year if need be, that's why I'm ok with 3 years. Wouldn't want longer though.
 
worm said:
I care because there is only so much cap to go around. Next couple of years I don't care. Sign Evans for 2 years 5m. We have a finite cap to sign hutson, Demidov, DR, Laine, and/or others
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VGK, Sea, now Utah are generating $ignificant $$$. I anticipate an expansion team in Houston & Atlanta within 3-years

I expect all that will drive cap north of $115M within 5 years. Lots of $ coming off Habs cap over next 3-seasons, Suzie, Slaf, CC, Guhle already signed & $ allocated. Expect Hutson will be locked up below Suzuki AAV this summer, leaving Demigod’s 2nd contract in 2-3 years and maybe Fowler & Hage in 3-4 years

If HuGo play it correctly there should be no need to go high inflation UFA route to sign talent - so cap management over next 5-years really shouldn’t be a big deal w most of the core already / about to be signed at pre high cap inflation $$
 
I'm just amazed they're going to try Atlanta for the third time. I think KC would be a hit too, good sports loving town with minimal entertainment distraction like Atlanta.
 
Habsy said:
Eller is a similar player and is still going and often traded. As long as there is no NMC I'm confident he can be moved in a final year if need be, that's why I'm ok with 3 years. Wouldn't want longer though.
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Eller is a center and more consistent than Armia but yes, I care more about whether a player is tradable under a given contract than whether the contract is the best value we can get.
 
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