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Habs Season Thread: 2024-25 Regular Season

GrandWazoo said:
Dude, check recent stats, not career.
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Ah there it is, as expected, smaller sample size better. Even after he comes off injuries.

Montemblow and grubauer are very comparable. Your what have you done for me lately applies to Montembeault too. Saying it's disingenuous is bullshit. What's disingenuous is shortening the sample size to fit your argument. That's what's disingenuous.
 
GGpX said:
Except this isn't a career retrospective. Nobody's comparing the summary of their careers except you because you don't want to lose an internet argument.

Grubauer, at one point, was a good player who was a consistent .915% or higher goalie throughout his twenties. The player who's been in Seattle has objectively been one of the worst players in the league. Nobody's comparing Grubauer from his pre-Seattle days to Montembault except you because, what, your pride won't allow you to because this is the hill you want to die on?

You're extremely disingenuous in most arguments, but this is quite the leap even for you.
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Smaller sample sizes are disingenuous. Injuries affected grubauer. You're the one being disingenuous because you fucked up. Again.

My pride isn't what's up here, yours is, you always think you're right. You're not. You can't simply dismiss stats to suit yourself. I haven't dismissed any of Montembeault stats and I'm the one being disingenuous.

Again fuck off.
 
Grubauer came off injuries and had a bad 15 games and that's what you guys are hanging your hat on. They at least sent him down like Primeau for reconditioning. Calling the comparable disingenuous is shady as fuck.

Not surprising coming from a Boisvert acolyte.
 
Habsy said:
Ah there it is, as expected, smaller sample size better. Even after he comes off injuries.

Montemblow and grubauer are very comparable. Your what have you done for me lately applies to Montembeault too. Saying it's disingenuous is bullshit. What's disingenuous is shortening the sample size to fit your argument. That's what's disingenuous.
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Wtf are you talking about?!? We’re talking about Monty right now vs Grubauer right now. The goalies they were 5 years ago is completely irrelevant. Man, you’ve lost the plot on this one.

It’s totally fine you know to acknowledge that Grubauer, the worst goalie in league right now, is worse than Monty. It absolutely doesn’t diminishes your other arguments.
 
I don't think the comparison with Grubauer is completely off in the sense that it took a while for Gru to lose his starting spot despite meh performances. His first year in Seattle was awful, the next two were actually very Monty-esque and he eventually lost his spot to Daccord in his 3rd season. But this year he's been abysmal, way way worse than Monty.
 
GrandWazoo said:
I don't think the comparison with Grubauer is completely off in the sense that it took a while for Gru to lose his starting spot despite meh performances. His first year in Seattle was awful, the next two were actually very Monty-esque and he eventually lost his spot to Daccord in his 3rd season. But this year he's been abysmal, way way worse than Monty.
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Teams never learn on giving goalies too much term
 
GrandWazoo said:
Wtf are you talking about?!? We’re talking about Monty right now vs Grubauer right now. The goalies they were 5 years ago is completely irrelevant. Man, you’ve lost the plot on this one.

It’s totally fine you know to acknowledge that Grubauer, the worst goalie in league right now, is worse than Monty. It absolutely doesn’t diminishes your other arguments.
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Where did I ever say right now? I said that's their Montembeault and you got your tits in a bunch and GGpX had the balls to call me disingenuous. The two goalies are comparable regardless of the fact that you guys don't want to accept it. Period.

You two, in your infinite wisdom, decided that in the last 15 games Monty was better. No shit Sherlocks.

Ridiculous
 
GrandWazoo said:
I don't think the comparison with Grubauer is completely off in the sense that it took a while for Gru to lose his starting spot despite meh performances. His first year in Seattle was awful, the next two were actually very Monty-esque and he eventually lost his spot to Daccord in his 3rd season. But this year he's been abysmal, way way worse than Monty.
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Yes but I'm being disingenuous.

Fucking clown shoes
 
A few random thoughts.

Monty has been the same thing he has always been. I never saw him as the starter when we were good.

He played so many minutes this year because primeau was bad and for some reason Hugo thought primeau would be claimed on waivers.


As for Dobes he is basically a primeau. Not quite as good in NCAA, similar start to AHL. What happens from here is the important part.

I'm hopefully the 4 nations will help monty improve.

Fowler is the guy that has to pan out.
 
Habsy said:
Where did I ever say right now? I said that's their Montembeault and you got your tits in a bunch and GGpX had the balls to call me disingenuous. The two goalies are comparable regardless of the fact that you guys don't want to accept it. Period.

You two, in your infinite wisdom, decided that in the last 15 games Monty was better. No shit Sherlocks.

Ridiculous
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I just said that Grubauer was worse, which is correct. I didn't think I had to explain that I didn't mean in their career as a whole. And no I didn't mean last 15 games, I meant last 4 years, which is the relevant time frame from when Monty started with us and when Grubauer started with Seattle. Grubauer has been the worse goalie of the 2 every single year in that time frame.
 
worm said:
A few random thoughts.

Monty has been the same thing he has always been. I never saw him as the starter when we were good.

He played so many minutes this year because primeau was bad and for some reason Hugo thought primeau would be claimed on waivers.


As for Dobes he is basically a primeau. Not quite as good in NCAA, similar start to AHL. What happens from here is the important part.

I'm hopefully the 4 nations will help monty improve.

Fowler is the guy that has to pan out.
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Goalies are volatile except for the elite few like Helly

Good thing you can plug a vet in to help out easier than other positions
 
GrandWazoo said:
I just said that Grubauer was worse, which is correct. I didn't think I had to explain that I didn't mean in their career as a whole. And no I didn't mean last 15 games, I meant last 4 years, which is the relevant time frame from when Monty started with us and when Grubauer started with Seattle. Grubauer has been the worse goalie of the 2 every single year in that time frame.
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I've posted the numbers for the last four years and they are indeed comparable. You posted nothing.

To say the two goalies aren't comparable is incorrect when they in fact are comparable. Pointing to a short sample size, especially after injury, is just ludicrous. Nothing I stated was wrong, grubauer is at best a backup goalie as is Montembeault. To be called disingenuous over something that is pretty clear is insulting.

No respect to those who can't read stats.
 
This is nothing more than fans refusing to see what a player on their team really is and overrating him. Happens with every fan base.

That's what's going on here. The two goalies are comparable when you remove your eye test and bias.
 
Monty has a slightly better sv % by five one-thousands.

Grubauer has the better GAA.

Not comparable. Lol.

Sorry for causing PTSD showing you that our goalie isn't much to write home about.
 
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