GrandWazoo
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Agreed. Suzuki and Dach *could* be that. With prayers and well chosen sacrifices.and I think you can win it all with two 2nd tier centres
Agreed. Suzuki and Dach *could* be that. With prayers and well chosen sacrifices.and I think you can win it all with two 2nd tier centres
Vegas and the Blues when they won the Cup didn't have an elite center.. point per game player.. Suzuki has some swagger.. I love the push back last night when he gave up the pass to let them tie.. he came back and almost scored, hit the post.. his ceiling is higher than 60..He is a number one center on this team... by default. The same way Samuel Montembault's a #1. They're #1s because they happen to be playing for one of the worst teams in the league.
On a championship caliber team, though? The only championship caliber team in the league where he'd be the #1 center is Bawstun. Every other team vying to win the Cup, he's their #2 or #3. ESPN had a poll with players & executives, Suzuki didn't receive a single vote: https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/in...top-centers-players-execs-vote-best-2023-2024
Not that it's the end-all-be-all, as I would take him over a couple of players that got votes. But he's still around the 20th best center in the league.
I get why some people think he's a real #1, though. We've been so offensively starved for the last 30 years that we've lowered expectations.
Suzuki's unfortunately going through the exact same career path as Saku Koivu. A nice center that is expected to be a #1, but he just isn't.
Dach needs a monster year or enters the bust or made of glass categoryAgreed. Suzuki and Dach *could* be that. With prayers and well chosen sacrifices.
He isnt Eichel or 200 foot horse RORVegas and the Blues when they won the Cup didn't have an elite center.. point per game player.. Suzuki has some swagger.. I love the push back last night when he gave up the pass to let them tie.. he came back and almost scored, hit the post.. his ceiling is higher than 60..
I’m more concerned about the made of glass part. It’s been a lot of injuries.Dach needs a monster year or enters the bust or made of glass category
true although this one was a freak oneI’m more concerned about the made of glass part. It’s been a lot of injuries.
Was it? Seemed like a fairly innocent hit that took him out for the season.true although this ine was a freak one
not sureGlioblastoma?
I didn't say an elite center.Vegas and the Blues when they won the Cup didn't have an elite center.. point per game player.. Suzuki has some swagger.. I love the push back last night when he gave up the pass to let them tie.. he came back and almost scored, hit the post.. his ceiling is higher than 60..
Both are not "top" centres as described here, they both fall in the 2nd patch where Suzki is/will be..He isnt Eichel or 200 foot horse ROR
Both are older than Suzuki , as far as production is concerned at the end of their career I think Suzuki numbers will be similar to EichelI didn't say an elite center.
But since you brought up St Louis & Las Vegas, Ryan O'Reilly was a better player than Suzuki at that time & Jack Eichel's a better player than Suzuki. I don't think that should be much of an argument.
Nick is a tier belowBoth are not "top" centres as described here, they both fall in the 2nd patch where Suzki is/will be..