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Jake Allen signed to 2 year contract extension @ $2,875M AAV - Starting in 2021-22

Habsy

Wrong Thinker Extraordinaire
That's a good read. He makes some good points. I found this thought interesting :

Finally, there is the expansion draft, and how it relates to that contract. To be clear, the Canadiens did not absolutely need to sign Allen to an extension to meet the exposure requirements for the expansion draft. They accomplished that when they signed Michael McNiven to a one-year contract extension two weeks ago. By doing that, the Canadiens simply had to issue a qualifying offer to McNiven to retain his rights next offseason, and in so doing his availability would have met the exposure requirements set forth in the expansion rules. So the Allen signing had less to do with this than with the reasons explained above.

But, if Seattle looks at the available goalies in the expansion draft and decides Allen might offer the best bang for their buck, then the Canadiens just avoided losing someone else, perhaps a younger defenceman like a Cale Fleury or Noah Juulsen.

Exposing Allen in hopes be gets selected thereby protecting your other players. That's downright machiavellian.

There are many other reasonable arguments in that article. This one just made me go hmmm.
 

worm

Well-known member
That's a good read. He makes some good points. I found this thought interesting :



Exposing Allen in hopes be gets selected thereby protecting your other players. That's downright machiavellian.

There are many other reasonable arguments in that article. This one just made me go hmmm.
you sure are a MB fanboy all of a sudden
 

Habsy

Wrong Thinker Extraordinaire
Never said I agreed with it. Just said if that's part of the equation that's pretty deep thinking on the issue.
 

worm

Well-known member
i did not realize these goalies got so much money

Thomas Greiss, at age 34, got a two-year deal worth $3.6 million a year from Detroit. Corey Crawford, at age 35, got two years at $3.9 million a year from the Devils. Cam Talbot, at age 33, got $3.67 million a year for three years from the Minnesota Wild.
 

Sal_Butera

Well-known member
i did not realize these goalies got so much money

Thomas Greiss, at age 34, got a two-year deal worth $3.6 million a year from Detroit. Corey Crawford, at age 35, got two years at $3.9 million a year from the Devils. Cam Talbot, at age 33, got $3.67 million a year for three years from the Minnesota Wild.
Which is why I called the Allen deal below market value
 

GrandWazoo

Well-known member
Random thought, what if Allen sucks here?

Then what? Seattle's not going to take him if he sucks, they'll have their pick of the litter across the league if they want a goalie.

I don't really get this. If Allen was good this upcoming season, then maybe. But a two year extension right away?

We shall see...

Yep, that's exactly my thinking.
 

wiseguy1

Well-known member
That's a good read. He makes some good points. I found this thought interesting :



Exposing Allen in hopes be gets selected thereby protecting your other players. That's downright machiavellian.

There are many other reasonable arguments in that article. This one just made me go hmmm.
How about Seattle, Habs and Price have already made a behind the curtain deal to switch jerseys. now thats machiavellian.
 

GGpX

Well-known member
i did not realize these goalies got so much money

Thomas Greiss, at age 34, got a two-year deal worth $3.6 million a year from Detroit. Corey Crawford, at age 35, got two years at $3.9 million a year from the Devils. Cam Talbot, at age 33, got $3.67 million a year for three years from the Minnesota Wild.

Detroit, Ottawa & New Joizy all had to overpay to get players to go there. The Wild are... I don't quite understand what the Wild are doing. Trade away Dubnyk, cool. Sign a significantly worse player to replace him at almost the same money? Cool too, I guess?

None of those contracts are any good.
 

GEEMAN

Well-known member
Detroit, Ottawa & New Joizy all had to overpay to get players to go there. The Wild are... I don't quite understand what the Wild are doing. Trade away Dubnyk, cool. Sign a significantly worse player to replace him at almost the same money? Cool too, I guess?

None of those contracts are any good.

Detroit and Ottawa have to fill rosters or get to the floor

Yzerman got short term deals with vets to ride the time til the draft produces players
 

GrandWazoo

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Are we better with Price or Allen + Hall if he was a starter. Just curious what people would think.

Allen hasn't been great as a starter so we would be worse, even with Hall. Plus if Allen provides the quality relief that is expected of him and if, big if, it allows Price to returns to MVP form, that would be a huge boon for us.
 

GEEMAN

Well-known member
Allen hasn't been great as a starter so we would be worse, even with Hall. Plus if Allen provides the quality relief that is expected of him and if, big if, it allows Price to returns to MVP form, that would be a huge boon for us.

Primeau just sits for 2 years ?
 

Sal_Butera

Well-known member
Primeau just sits for 2 years ?
Primeau needs to play and develop - what if there’s no AHL season? Let’s see how he does carrying the starter load in AHL first.

Holtby spent 2.5 full seasons in AHL before being called up by Caps. Primeau was a 7th round pick, give it time. This offseason has allowed Habs to buy development time for their prospects....that’s a good thing vs how they’ve traditionally rushed them out of necessity.
 
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