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Canada May Slash Its F-35 Stealth Fighter Order From 88 Jets to Just 30

Canada chose Sweden's GlobalEye to guard its Arctic — a flying radar that tracks anything on land, sea, or air from 400 miles out, as Russia and China push into the region.
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The interesting bit here isn't the author's "conventional wisdom" bit regarding the scaling back of the F35 order. It's that Saab offered GlobalEye with the Gripen's as part of a package. Given that we just agreed to the GlobalEye purchase, that may show where we're going with the overall move.
 
Trump’s “kill switch” comment made this inevitable. The attacks on Canadian sovereignty sealed the deal. He’ll use any leverage available to make us subservient. Even if a literal remote kill switch is impossible, it would be profoundly foolish to trust the viability of our air defence to the US. They control delivery, they control supply chains, parts, service, etc. And they can get fucked.
 
manny said:
Trump’s “kill switch” comment made this inevitable. The attacks on Canadian sovereignty sealed the deal. He’ll use any leverage available to make us subservient. Even if a literal remote kill switch is impossible, it would be profoundly foolish to trust the viability of our air defence to the US. They control delivery, they control supply chains, parts, service, etc. And they can get fucked.
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It’s pretty simple—the United States under Trump and for the foreseeable future is the number one explicit threat to this nation’s sovereignty and security.

In that environment, sourcing one of the centerpieces of our defense procurement from them would be flat-out insane. Like Taiwan buying their next generation fighter jet fleet from China.

May as well take the 16 F-35’s we’ve already paid for, if the US ever delivers them, but not a single one more than that.
 
Always adorable when separatists, whether they be Albertans or Quebecois, imagine that they can still maintain all of the benefits of being Canadian after they've separated from Canada. Seems to be a pretty common delusion.

Nope you don't get to keep your Canadian passports or citizenship, nope you don't get continued border/customs-free access to the rest of Canada, nope you don't get continued access to Canada's universal health care system when travelling in other provinces, nope you don't get to just appropriate everything in your jurisdiction that is property of the Canadian federal government (like a certain pipeline that Trudeau bought for them, military assets, bases, etc), nope you don't get to waltz away from Canada without taking on your proportional share of the national debt, nope you don't get to rip up treaties with First Nations within your provincial borders and tell them they and their land are coming with you, nope you don't get a say in our monetary policy should you choose to continue using the Canadian dollar as your currency, etc, etc.
 
LeafGm said:
Always adorable when separatists, whether they be Albertans or Quebecois, imagine that they can still maintain all of the benefits of being Canadian after they've separated from Canada. Seems to be a pretty common delusion.

Nope you don't get to keep your Canadian passports or citizenship, nope you don't get continued border/customs-free access to the rest of Canada, nope you don't get continued access to Canada's universal health care system when travelling in other provinces, nope you don't get to just appropriate everything in your jurisdiction that is property of the Canadian federal government (like a certain pipeline that Trudeau bought for them, military assets, bases, etc), nope you don't get to waltz away from Canada without taking on your proportional share of the national debt, nope you don't get to rip up treaties with First Nations within your provincial borders and tell them they and their land are coming with you, nope you don't get a say in our monetary policy should you choose to continue using the Canadian dollar as your currency, etc, etc.
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Yup. I've ranted on here a bunch of times about this, but probably the biggest misunderstanding I see with Albertan separatists is on the territory front. They just assume that they get to take all of the current landmass of Alberta whole because rural Albertans want out. Even ignoring the national parks (Banff, Jasper, and Wood Buffalo most notably), and the native issue for a moment....the cities do not want to leave Canada. Even if there was enough hillbilly rural Alberta support, the cities would vote ~70/30 against it and they would be able to petition the federal government to remain. A separate Alberta would look way, way different than these mouth breathers think it would.
 
Other small wrinkle is the UN has recently adopted clear guidelines on indigenous rights in their basis for recognition. Good luck getting country status.
 
Aberdeen said:
Other small wrinkle is the UN has recently adopted clear guidelines on indigenous rights in their basis for recognition. Good luck getting country status.
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The UN is Alberta's schrodinger's cat. It exists when they claim that Canada has to give a sovereign Alberta access to tidewater (lol, ask Bolivia how that's going with Chile) , but doesn't exist when it comes to literally anything else. Most of their propaganda sidesteps all of the UN requirements by stating that they won't join the UN anyway because of something something globalists.
 
I doubt the Maple MAGA's driving the Alberta independence movement are the least bit concerned about being recognized by the international community as a sovereign, independent country. They don't want to be a country, they want to be annexed into the USA as a state by Trump.

But it's more palatable to a wider proportion of the electorate to claim that they'll be an independent country while still retaining every benefit that comes along with being Canadian, so that's what they're going with in the marketing.
 
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