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UWHabs said:
It's your fault for driving. Yonge should be pedestrianized south of Bloor.
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First, that’s north of bloor. Second, businesses and condos on that stretch rely on yonge for access for deliveries, taxis etc.

So it’s nice in principle but completely impractical.
 
i work at yonge and college

i'm guess i'm not really sure i get how this would actually help with congestion.

it'll be the same amount of cars and probably the same amount of bikes, just no bike lanes.

because the people on bikes aren't just out for a casual stroll, they'll still need to get to the same places no?
 
hockeylover said:
i work at yonge and bay.

i'm guess i'm not really sure i get how this would actually help with congestion.

it'll be the same amount of cars and probably the same amount of bikes, just no bike lanes.

because the people on bikes aren't just out for a casual stroll, they'll still need to get to the same places no?
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The bike lanes permanently eat up a full lane of traffic in each direction. There are no bike lanes on Jarvis with probably more bikes on it than yonge without these issues.

One lane also means bus stops stop all traffic, along with accidents, Ubers/taxis as well as any construction needs.

Even the stars’ poor data found travel times doubling on sections of bloor.

And at the end of the day the bike lanes are underutilized on these routes. Bikers don’t even want to use them.
 
mbow30 said:
First, that’s north of bloor. Second, businesses and condos on that stretch rely on yonge for access for deliveries, taxis etc.

So it’s nice in principle but completely impractical.
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Duh, yeah, was getting my zones mixed.

mbow30 said:
The bike lanes permanently eat up a full lane of traffic in each direction. There are no bike lanes on Jarvis with probably more bikes on it than yonge without these issues.

One lane also means bus stops stop all traffic, along with accidents, Ubers/taxis as well as any construction needs.

Even the stars’ poor data found travel times doubling on sections of bloor.

And at the end of the day the bike lanes are underutilized on these routes. Bikers don’t even want to use them.
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It's a hard problem to solve. For me, South of Bloor, it feels like you should shut Yonge completely to cars (except dropoff/deliveries/transit), as there's tons of action there, and between University/Bay/Church/Jarvis you have other decent streets that can take you N/S.

North of Bloor, you lose the other nice side streets though. Forcing the cars or bikes over to Mt Pleasant feels a little too much of a detour. You could think about maybe switching Avenue/Oriole over to be a bikeway. It would probably be a nicer bike than dealing with the stuff that still sort of needs to happen on Yonge in those zones. But then you get a weird cross, where the "natural" driving/non-driving sides swap at Bloor.

The problem really is that everything is congested, and the whole section north of Bloor doesn't really work as any of a driving/biking/anything.
 
Trying to drive on Yonge between Front Street and d Bloor is a straight up waste of time. It should be pedestrianized. Theyve done this to a section of Ste. Catherine Street in Montreal in what is now called the Quartier des Spectacles. Even 40 years ago, before bike lanes were a thing, you could walk Ste. Catherine faster than you could drive it. I could start walking east from the Forum and I could make it to Peel Street, a dozen blocks away, on foot faster than the #15 bus could.
 
It took 40 years of complete transit incompetence to get here.

Worse than Mexico City? Seppuku is not too much to ask from everyone who let it get this way.
 
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CH1 said:
seems like a national problem

Canada has 9 cities with worse traffic than LA
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It's not a lack of highways either. Hamilton is small by city standards and has 2 full blown 400 series highways running through it and another 2/2 parkway. Edmonton the same really. London, lol, what the fuck are we doing when you can't live in a place like that without ridiculous traffic?
 
Also Waze has been a disaster for this city. The number of donkeys who cross major streets using side streets with no lights is all clueless waze and ride share drivers.

Driving Avenue rd is a hazard and a half if there’s any traffic because of it.
 
cars need to log in to a central downtown grid, and then the city traffic computer autopilots them all.
 
MindzEye said:
There's never going to be a way for a major metropolis to efficiently move vehicles over surface streets, the work there is to get cars off of the road, not hyper optimize to save them a few seconds of trip time.
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Well there’s clearly a more efficient way than what we’re doing here.
 
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