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OT: American Politics

Aberdeen said:
As is often the case Habsy conflates the argument. What should happen vs what will probably (not happen).
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Nah, he's good on that this time. I'm saying this will happen. There are almost definitely crimes committed by Trump prior to his becoming President that have 1) been investigated in NY & 2) Will have some SoL time left on them when he's pushed out of office in January. Additionally, the odds of him not committing crimes going forward are also roughly nil (he's just committed felony voter fraud ffs). He won't be allowed to skate by in NY, they've already been chomping at the bit to get after him some more.
 
Once again everyone gets their ire up because someone disagrees with them. Many people in the states believe things won't change. I'm one of them.
 
Habsy said:
The ones with skeletons? Yeah, they'll make it go away.
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Helping Trump is electoral poison anywhere but in the deepest of deep red states. The way to keep your skeletons in the closet as a Democrat is by staying in power.

Oh that's right, dems are honest and have no skeletons. I forgot.
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Blah blah #bothsides
 
Habsy said:
Part of it sure but Washington have them enough ammunition.

Truthfully, I'm a little surprised after all that's happened over the last 3.5 years that many of you are still native enough to think they'll go after a former president.
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This habit you have of saying that WE are the ones that haven't been listening and learning from the last 3.5yrs is adorbs.
 
MindzEye said:
Nah, he's good on that this time. I'm saying this will happen. There are almost definitely crimes committed by Trump prior to his becoming President that have 1) been investigated in NY & 2) Will have some SoL time left on them when he's pushed out of office in January. Additionally, the odds of him not committing crimes going forward are also roughly nil (he's just committed felony voter fraud ffs). He won't be allowed to skate by in NY, they've already been chomping at the bit to get after him some more.
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We'll see who is right at the end. Will corruption rule once again or will things actually change. Stay tuned.
 
It's never happened before is not a good argument for something not happening in the future. Almost everything about the Trump presidency is unprecedented -- why should the ending be normal?
 
CH1 said:
It's never happened before is not a good argument for something not happening in the future. Almost everything about the Trump presidency is unprecedented -- why should the ending be normal?
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Because this is America and its all about money and the prick is making people that matter a shit ton of money.
 
Habsy said:
We'll see who is right at the end. Will corruption rule once again or will things actually change. Stay tuned.
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I think that's a false dichotomy and you create it because again I believe you fail to see how different and unprecedented Trump is.

Trump can be punished for crimes committed and things can still stay the same in Washington. Washington can remain corrupt, and turn their backs on Trump who again, to be clear, is not one of them. The Republicans that survive this upcoming election won't be lining up to publicly support Trump.
 
Habsy said:
Because this is America and its all about money and the prick is making people that matter a shit ton of money.
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you're right...he's made no enemies along the way. He should be good. My mistake.
 
You guys are just too young. Only a wise old man like habsy has the prerequisite knowledge that nothing is worth being hopeful about and we should all just give up on trying to change things and assume the worst.


THANK YOU HABSY
 
Preston said:
You guys are just too young. Only a wise old man like habsy has the prerequisite knowledge that nothing is worth being hopeful about and we should all just give up on trying to change things and assume the worst.


THANK YOU HABSY
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Only young people are too arrogant or naive to think what should be will be.
 
You really think mockery in attempts to shut down a discussion is the way to go? Ask the people out on the streets right now if that works Preston.

I get you guys disagree, I think it's naive and you think I'm dumb. I get all of it. I just never buckle to mobs. Ever.
 
Habsy said:
You really think mockery in attempts to shut down a discussion is the way to go? Ask the people out on the streets right now if that works Preston.

I get you guys disagree, I think it's naive and you think I'm dumb. I get all of it. I just never buckle to mobs. Ever.
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I expect better from you actually. You're not dumb.
 
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