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OT: American Politics

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That's so out of character for him to announce a deal to make himself look good, but have it turn out that the deal does nothing other than enrich him or his wealthiest supporters.

But I'm the bad guy for being ridiculously skeptical about trump brokered middle east deals
 
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How can you not trust a pumpkin that hugs American flags for a living? That’s his living right? He’s not actually in charge of anything important?
 
I understand the anxiety. I really do. But this is more than likely going to be a landslide for Biden. The polls are just getting more and more lopsided with little time for Trump to shift the tables. Biden just absolutely dominated from start to finish. Pretty rare feat. But 2016 PTSD is real. I'm not too concerned about any fraud or efforts by the Republicans to steal the election because I don't really think it'll be close enough.

As for the Senate... That'll be the one to watch for me. Dems clearly with a strong lead, but it's a bit closer. Would be fucking huge to get it.
 
Preston said:
I understand the anxiety. I really do. But this is more than likely going to be a landslide for Biden. The polls are just getting more and more lopsided with little time for Trump to shift the tables. Biden just absolutely dominated from start to finish. Pretty rare feat. But 2016 PTSD is real. I'm not too concerned about any fraud or efforts by the Republicans to steal the election because I don't really think it'll be close enough.

As for the Senate... That'll be the one to watch for me. Dems clearly with a strong lead, but it's a bit closer. Would be fucking huge to get it.
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ya - but still no debates yet
still no last minute leaks

a lot can happen - biden is up by 3 in game 7
 
It’ll tighten up. They’ve hid Biden and Harris well. Not many public interviews for being so close to election. My thought is that they know it’s theirs to lose so why risk anything potentially damaging.

Democrats love shooting themselves in the foot, it’s smart to avoid that this time around.
 
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worm said:
ya - but still no debates yet
still no last minute leaks

a lot can happen - biden is up by 3 in game 7
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Debates historically don't shift the odds much. They're just noise. The new anti Trump crowd that wasn't as present in 2016 won't change their minds. And the odds factor in everything, including the possibility for debates and whatnot and time before the election, but the thing is the closer we get to election time, the less time there is for people to change their minds. If it was this lopsided the day before the election the odds likely show a 90% chance of a Biden win. TLDR: People are already decided .
 
Preston said:
I understand the anxiety. I really do. But this is more than likely going to be a landslide for Biden. The polls are just getting more and more lopsided with little time for Trump to shift the tables. Biden just absolutely dominated from start to finish. Pretty rare feat. But 2016 PTSD is real. I'm not too concerned about any fraud or efforts by the Republicans to steal the election because I don't really think it'll be close enough.

As for the Senate... That'll be the one to watch for me. Dems clearly with a strong lead, but it's a bit closer. Would be fucking huge to get it.
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I wish I shared your optimism. If the last four years have taught me anything though, it is to never overestimate the American people. Apologies to the good ones among you reading this.
 
zeke said:
gop seemed fine keeping only 8 justices during the last election.
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You really prefer going into the election with 5 to 3 on the right side? I suppose it’s better than 6 to 3 but not 5 to 4. A pity she couldn’t hold on a little longer but kudos to her for fighting as long as she did. She did indeed live a full and impressive life.
 
Wayward DP said:
I wish I shared your optimism. If the last four years have taught me anything though, it is to never overestimate the American people. Apologies to the good ones among you reading this.
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Yeah I'm just basing it on hard numbers, not emotions. Polling models have been adjusted in Trump's favor since 2016 and it still isn't even close. Completely understand having 2016 PTSD though. As I said, if it's this lopsided the day before the election Trump is likely at 10% to win. Which isn't 0%, but not very good odds IMO.
 
This has not been a normal election cycle, not even close. I think there are variables that normally wouldn’t be as influencing. It’s going to be a bloody mess regardless of who wins.
 
I beg to differ. There likely aren’t enough undecided to sway to a Trump victory but there are most certainly undecideds left.
 
Yeah if it hasn't tightened up already it won't tighten up at all. Biden may need to win in a landslide to actually get it done in case Republicans even have a semi case to challenge the result, but I think you can just about get out the salami and cheese mama. It's not close and it's more than likely to be domination in November.
 
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