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OT: American Politics

mbow30

Well-known member
I just checked Ticketmaster for the Sunrise "show" and there's a fuckton of tickets available. The first few sections closest to the stage are sold out (probably a combination of true believers and comps for donors and key allies/friends) and a few of the cheap seat sections.... but other than that, maybe half full at best, and that's with 1/4 or so of the arena behind the stage and unavailable.

So with an adjusted capacity of probably 13-15K, the seating map suggests that they're maybe half sold out at the moment.

LOL trump
 

UWHabs

Well-known member
I definitely overestimated a lot of Republicans. January 6th seems like the antithesis of what they claim to stand for.

Yeah, but I think there were at least enough moderate ones that were turned off by it that meant that any future "stop the steal" attempts simply couldn't get the support needed. So while a bunch of them doubled down, it probably pissed off enough to get below a critical mass so now as we see it's just the fringe keeping up the fight.
 

manny

Well-known member
Yeah, but I think there were at least enough moderate ones that were turned off by it that meant that any future "stop the steal" attempts simply couldn't get the support needed. So while a bunch of them doubled down, it probably pissed off enough to get below a critical mass so now as we see it's just the fringe keeping up the fight.
That's a pleasant thought.
 

Habsy

Yes, I'm kidding people.
Staff member
Yeah, but I think there were at least enough moderate ones that were turned off by it that meant that any future "stop the steal" attempts simply couldn't get the support needed. So while a bunch of them doubled down, it probably pissed off enough to get below a critical mass so now as we see it's just the fringe keeping up the fight.
I thought so too but anecdotally speaking I am seeing some crawl back.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
I definitely overestimated a lot of Republicans. January 6th seems like the antithesis of what they claim to stand for.

but provides an incredibly clear window for viewing what they actually stand for.

White Christian theocracy. Ultimate freedom to do and say what they feel is appropriate according to their weirdo religious beliefs, which are a strange mash up of faux originalist constitutionalism and evangelical christianity.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
Yeah, but I think there were at least enough moderate ones that were turned off by it that meant that any future "stop the steal" attempts simply couldn't get the support needed. So while a bunch of them doubled down, it probably pissed off enough to get below a critical mass so now as we see it's just the fringe keeping up the fight.

The moderates are and were always grifters. They have morals & ideals only insofar as those can benefit them personally. When the acceptable morals and ideals of the movement changed, so did their own.
 
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