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OT: American Politics

Bleedsblue&white said:
I'll tell you habsy, I've had my watershed moment with this shit...so let me be clear.

If you support trump you are an idiot, an extremely wealthy person who does not care about anything but themselves so still an idiot...or a brain-washed idiot.
Anybody I run into from here on in that wants to be vocal about being pro-trump will get it with both barrels...idc if it's at work, if it's some idiot behind me in line...it is beyond insane to pretend that that man should be in charge of anything.

I'm not one to pop off in public, but if some qanon crackpot spouts off around me again I'm going to town.
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How is being hopeful that the pact signed with Israel extends to all of the region to reduce tension have anything to do with your disdain of Trump?
My entire point is that maybe something actually good can come out of this mess and you all get stupid.

Maybe it’s antisemitism because you guys sure as shit don’t seem to care while railing on dumb shit far less important.
 
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zeke said:
They're terrible. How about some simple questions.

"Sir, you have admitted already many times that you have lied about the virus to make people feel more optimistic - so why should we believe anything you are saying about it?"

"SIr you have objectively done a terrible job on covid, as our death per capita numbers are worse than all but a small handful of countries that were hit much earlier or are much less developed - why do you think you can keep lying your way through this?"
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the fealty is mindboggling. such an abdication. it's like they twist themselves into a pretzel to avoid pointing out the obvious.

the contrast at the town hall was absolutely stunning. and just really damn sad.
 
MindzEye said:
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You're never going to get tired of being wrong about him, are you? Saying that you're tired of him, and acknowledging the fact that you have tried to excuse him on a pile of issues with obvious red flags attached to them, just isn't the same thing.

There is only one rational way to approach anything Trump is involved in. Show me. Show me real results over an extended period of time. He is the least deserving person on the planet of anything resembling benefit of the doubt.
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FFS. It’s about progress to peace and good out of suit but whatever. You guys are seriously fucked to the point that you can’t even discuss shit without railing. Whatever man, nothing good can happen without it being shit on. I for one am glad there is movement to stabilization of that region. One less problem to focus on because there are plenty more.
 
Habsy said:
FFS. It’s about progress to peace and good out of suit but whatever. You guys are seriously fucked to the point that you can’t even discuss shit without railing. Whatever man, nothing good can happen without it being shit on. I for one am glad there is movement to stabilization of that region. One less problem to focus on because there are plenty more.
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I would love if there was "progress to peace" or "movement to stabilize the region". What I'm trying to say is that if you think anything Trump is involved won't end up worse in the long term, well, you're just not fucking paying attention.

You call us "seriously fucked" but all we've been is somewhat observant of an obvious trend. Everything he touches turns to shit. It's done from bad philosophical premises, run by other grifters and con men, to produce outcomes that benefit Donnie above all else. The only thing seriously fucked here is the expectation that this starting point can produce real improvement.
 
Habsy said:
FFS. It’s about progress to peace and good out of suit but whatever. You guys are seriously fucked to the point that you can’t even discuss shit without railing. Whatever man, nothing good can happen without it being shit on. I for one am glad there is movement to stabilization of that region. One less problem to focus on because there are plenty more.
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What if its actually just solidifying his front for an imminent war on Iran?
 
MindzEye said:
I would love if there was "progress to peace" or "movement to stabilize the region". What I'm trying to say is that if you think anything Trump is involved won't end up worse in the long term, well, you're just not fucking paying attention.

You call us "seriously fucked" but all we've been is somewhat observant of an obvious trend. Everything he touches turns to shit. It's done from bad philosophical premises, run by other grifters and con men, to produce outcomes that benefit Donnie above all else. The only thing seriously fucked here is the expectation that this starting point can produce real improvement.
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So you feel this is a canard, that’s nothing will change with the Arab world finally recognizing Israel’s right to exist after almost 80 years?

For just a minute take Trump out of the equation, you don’t see positive movement? What’s your concern?
 
"I know the CDC director was stating the truth but my #1 goal was to undermine him as best as I could because my election is much more important thsn dead Americans"
 
Habsy said:
How is being hopeful that the pact signed with Israel extends to all of the region to reduce tension have anything to do with your disdain of Trump?
My entire point is that maybe something actually good can come out of this mess and you all get stupid.

Maybe it’s antisemitism because you guys sure as shit don’t seem to care while railing on dumb shit far less important.
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Well I absolutely don't give an extra fucks about Israel...I don't believe Jewish people are any better or worse than anybody else and I don't care about the bible and all the religious reasons people treat Israel differently than say...Australia...so there's that.

You basically insinuated that we were all ignoring this Very Big Deal to focus on All The Other Stuff That Is Always Happening...I call bullshit.

Pissed me off, you fucking jerk....now I'm off the rodeo.
 
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