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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

hockeylover said:
I see reason to be optimistic in Canada, for sure.

I still think the US is pretty fucked personally.
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I tend to agree they will have a rougher go than most countries, but again the virus may give them an easy assist if it is indeed mutating and becoming less deadly. Their healthcare system has also successfully flattened the curve like other countries so even if they get a spike they can handle the load in the hospitals.
 
leaffan2005 said:
I tend to agree they will have a rougher go than most countries, but again the virus may give them an easy assist if it is indeed mutating and becoming less deadly. Their healthcare system has also successfully flattened the curve like other countries so even if they get a spike they can handle the load in the hospitals.
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I don't think a third of the country has successfully flattened their curves, nor do they seem to have any interest in trying. In those areas, it's not just new cases that are up but hospitalizations are spiking as well.
 
I don't think it's getting less deadly (or at least I don't think there's much proof of that). The number of cases from young people are surging. Because:

1. They tend to give less of a fuck and are out and about.
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2. They only recently started testing pretty much anyone so the less severe cases are adding to the numbers. I'd imagine the hospitalization percentage has dramatically decreased across all of North America really simply because of the added testing.

Needless to say hospitalizations are a lagging indicator so let's see if Florida's hospitalizations increase in the coming weeks after this recent sharp increase of cases.
 
axlsalinger said:
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Think the hard part of figuring out the US is that there's a group of states that seem to be doing pretty great and if it ends up being true that the virus is actually less deadly, then that's awesome for them. Michigan was at 1,953 cases in one day at their peak in April, yesterday they only had 164. Similiar decline for Washington, Ohio, Massachussetts, Connecticut etc.

But then you have a handful of states where cases are exploding more than any time during this pandemic, hospitalizations are rising, wearing a mask isn't really encouraged, and rallies/conventions of 20,000 are being planned so it's almost hard to see a slight dip in the mortality rate as a reason to be optimistic. Slightly less disastrous maybe but still pretty disastrous.
 
hockeylover said:
Think the hard part of figuring out the US is that there's a group of states that seem to be doing pretty great and if it ends up being true that the virus is actually less deadly, then that's awesome for them. Michigan was at 1,953 cases in one day at their peak in April, yesterday they only had 164. Similiar decline for Washington, Ohio, Massachussetts, Connecticut etc.

But then you have a handful of states where cases are exploding more than any time during this pandemic, hospitalizations are rising, wearing a mask isn't really encouraged, and rallies/conventions of 20,000 are being planned so it's almost hard to see a slight dip in the mortality rate as a reason to be optimistic. Slightly less disastrous maybe but still pretty disastrous.
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Wait till the Hurricane evacuations come and a chunk of the population down south is exposed and flooding puts them out on the streets. At this point it is an annual event.
 
hockeylover said:
this is kind of my fear with pro sports. hopefully it goes better than this.
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It still boggles my mind that the US is trying to open up. Canada at least feels like we understand things a little and are taking measured steps to combat. The US is basically going hotspot to hotspot. While hockey and basketball might be able to get away with a hub city model for their playoffs, baseball is going to be weird when you have teams shutting down for weeks due to the virus, or once people start seeing how many thousands of tests they use on pro players while everyone else struggles to cope.
 
UWHabs said:
It still boggles my mind that the US is trying to open up. Canada at least feels like we understand things a little and are taking measured steps to combat. The US is basically going hotspot to hotspot. While hockey and basketball might be able to get away with a hub city model for their playoffs, baseball is going to be weird when you have teams shutting down for weeks due to the virus, or once people start seeing how many thousands of tests they use on pro players while everyone else struggles to cope.
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On the upside, it is looking less and less like baseball and its players will be able to reach any kind of return-to-play agreement.
 
TimHorton said:
Keep watching Nazi soccer and the EPL is back. Also Rugby in NZ has returned. It's hardly ideal, but it's something!
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yeah.. we'll see how long they last. hoping we're on the downslope of this now but it seems like it wouldn't take too many cases appearing to scuttle the entire thing again.
 
Volcanologist said:
yeah.. we'll see how long they last. hoping we're on the downslope of this now but it seems like it wouldn't take too many cases appearing to scuttle the entire thing again.
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Agreed, I actually think the PL won't be on for more than a month. But the Germans seemed to have figured it out, and my boyhood (one month ago) team Wolfsburg has already pissed me off at least twice!
 
leaffan2005 said:
One thing to consider is that although a bunch of these states are having their case numbers go up (ie Florida, California), their death rates have flattened out and even gone down for a few states. Who knows what this means given the inconsistency in reporting, but this could lead credence to the observation that the virus could be becoming less deadly than a few months ago.

Case numbers are not the be all end all at this current time. If more people are getting this but the majority are having little to minimal symptoms, given good contact tracing and isolation practices we could be in for a better rest of 2020 than we all expect. I also expect the fall and winter to not be as dreadful as many expect given social distancing guidelines and mask wearing will likely bring down the expected numbers of COVID and influenza, as seen with the lower infection rates in countries like Japan and Korea who have adopted mask wearing for years now.
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the deaths come around 20 days later
 
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