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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
Preseason Per 36

* = injured

Achiuwa (114min): 19.5pts (53.7ts%), 0.6ast (3.1to), 13.5rb (4.1off), 3.1st/1.3bk
Siakam* (0min): ---
Anunoby (101min): 27.6pts (69.1ts%), 2.5ast (1.8to), 5.7rb (2.1off), 2.1st/0.4bk
S.Barnes (132min): 13.4pts (48.9ts%), 7.7ast (2.5to), 6.6rb (2.2off), 1.6st, 1.6bk
VanVleet (98min): 18.3pts (55.2ts%), 7.3ast (1.8to), 4.8rb (0.4off), 1.8st/0.4bk

Birch* (34min): 8.4pts (45.7ts%), 3.1ast (3.1to), 8.4rb (2.1off), 0.0st/1.0bk
Boucher* (0min): ---
Mykhailuk (101min): 17.1pts (59.1ts%), 3.9ast (2.5to), 5.3rb (1.1off), 1.4st/0.7bk
Trent (88min): 19.3pts (44.5ts%), 0.8ast (1.2to), 4.5rb (0.4off), 2.9st/0.0bk
Flynn (89min): 22.6pts (57.3ts%), 3.6ast (1.2to), 2.4rb (0.0off), 1.6st/0.4bk

Gillespie (38min): 4.8pts (36.3ts%), 1.0ast (2.9to), 13.3rb (3.8off), 0.0st/1.9bk
Champagnie (92min): 14.5pts (55.9ts%), 2.7ast (2.7to), 11.3rb (3.9off), 3.1st/1.6bk
Watanabe* (17min): 21.3pts (71.4ts%), 4.3ast (0.0to), 14.9rb (4.3off), 2.1st/4.3bk
Banton (72min): 13.0pts (46.8ts%), 7.5ast (5.5to), 6.0rb (2.0off), 0.5st/2.0bk
Dragic (74min): 15.5pts (54.8ts%), 2.4ast (2.9to), 4.4rb (1.5off), 1.0st/0.5bk

Perry (14min): 21.3pts (60.2ts%), 0.0ast (2.7to), 5.3rb (0.0off), 2.7st/0.0bk
Wainright (35min): 13.3pts (65.8ts%), 3.1ast (4.1to), 9.2rb (1.0off), 2.0st/0.0bk
Dekker (33min): 25.3pts (70.0ts%), 1.1ast (1.1to), 2.2rb (0.0off), 0.0st/0.0bk
Bonga (43min): 7.5pts (57.1ts%), 6.6ast (1.7to), 7.5rb (3.3off), 1.7st/0.8bk
Johnson (25min): 10.0pts (38.9ts%), 4.3ast (5.7to), 7.1rb (1.4off), 1.4st/0.0bk


I think Nick gave us a pretty good idea of who is in and out with his minutes distributions.

The biggest surprises for me is that it looks like Champagnie and Banton are legit part of his team.

The one guy in the top 15 there that might have played his way out of a spot is Gillespie. They might try and see if Ish can handle the 5 spot defensively in his place but I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another C from outside the org before the season starts to take Gillespie spot.


I would guess Dekker and Ish stick around due to injuries but beyond that they're going to have to hope Champagnie and Banton need more work in the G league.

Trade Trent
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
The coles notes of their respective contracts

Dekker: 1yr, 1.78million. 350K guaranteed if he's waived before the first game of the season. Full guarantee if he's not waived by then.
Ish: 2 yr with a QO for a 3rd year: .925 this season, 1.563 next season, 2.055 QO yr 3. 250K guaranteed.
 

zeke

Well-known member
528 Raptor model projects the raps as 9th in the east: https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...ng-how-our-model-sees-the-2021-22-nba-season/


Here's how the raps rate by player:

VanVleet +3.6raptor, +8.2war
Anunoby +1.9raptor, +5.3war
Siakam +0.8raptor, +4.4war
Boucher +1.5raptor, +3.3war
Flynn +0.1raptor, +1.9war

Trent -1.1raptor, +1.6war
Dragic -0.9raptor, +1.1war
Birch -1.1raptor, +1.0war
Bonga -0.7raptor, +0.9war
Scottie -1.9raptor, +0.8war

Achiuwa -1.5raptor, +0.6war
Watanabe -1.4raptor, +0.5war
Mykhailuk -2.0raptor, +0.4war
Dekker -1.7raptor, +0.2war
Wainright -1.9raptor, +0.1war

Banton -2.5raptor, +0.0war
Johnson -3.3raptor, -0.1war


So their model currently projects both Scottie and Precious to be pretty much terrible this year. Not surprising given typical rookie impact and Precious awful underlying numbers last year (-3.4 raptor).

So if one or both of those kids pops this year into a legit positive-impact player in big minutes, that would dramatically ramp up their team projection to much higher than 9th.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
I'm not offended by 41-41 projection that basically assumes Pandemic Pascal is the real Pascal, and most of our bench is just bad.

I don't think either of those things are going to turn out to be true this season. I think Breakout OG is a thing, and we move from being 2 fringe all stars at the top of the lineup into a 3 headed monster of fringe all stars at the top of the lineup, and I think the kids will oscillate between giving us and the opposition complete fucking fits, but on their way to surprising levels of total impact.

I'm getting early Bench Mob (2016/17 Fred, Delon, Jakob, Norm) type vibes here where we defended and ran opposing 2nd units into the ground a lot of nights.
 

zeke

Well-known member
I'm not offended by 41-41 projection that basically assumes Pandemic Pascal is the real Pascal, and most of our bench is just bad.

I don't think either of those things are going to turn out to be true this season. I think Breakout OG is a thing, and we move from being 2 fringe all stars at the top of the lineup into a 3 headed monster of fringe all stars at the top of the lineup, and I think the kids will oscillate between giving us and the opposition complete fucking fits, but on their way to surprising levels of total impact.

I'm getting early Bench Mob (2016/17 Fred, Delon, Jakob, Norm) type vibes here where we defended and ran opposing 2nd units into the ground a lot of nights.

Yeah.. .500 assuming no improvement from Siakam or OG, and no impact from Scottie or Precious, is actually a very encouraging projection.
 

Jeremy

Well-known member
Do zeke and Deckie still want to make fun of me for talking about Scottie being on overdrive and Tim & Friends? That’s why I haven’t been posting. Lol.
 
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