OT: The Toronto Blue Jays

[MindzEye]

Has Davis Schneider fallen back to earth?

No, I think he's a totally legit 1.100 OPS guy.

 

[zeke]

i don't mind that pitch from swanson at all. good bit of hitting.

 

[zeke]

lmao after the homeplate ump struck Schneider out despite only seeing 1 strike, the 1st base ump gives Chapman a super generous check swing call to save him from striking out and then he doubles home the winning run the next pitch.

 

[Killer93]

Chapman walk off; #titlerun

 

[axlsalinger]

yet another close game, but still got out the brooms. Huge win. Great to see some signs of life from Matty Chaps.

nice weekend for Varsho, too.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

That Texas series. What a shame.

 

[zeke]

Both texas teams lose so jays are 1 up on the last wild card spot and .5 back of 3rd best record in the AL.

Brewers also lose so jays are 1 game back of 5th best record in mlb, and top 5 is where they should be on paper, tho they should be closer to the top 4 teams.

 

[UWHabs]

Both texas teams lose so jays are 1 up on the last wild card spot and .5 back of 3rd best record in the AL.

Brewers also lose so jays are 1 game back of 5th best record in mlb, and top 5 is where they should be on paper, tho they should be closer to the top 4 teams.

Worst season in team history. Completely wasted.

 

[JackBurton]

They won't get this ERA next season that's for sure.

 

[zeke]

funny thing is Kikuchi is the only SP putting up an abnormal ERA this year. well, the only abnormally GOOD era this year - Manoah has also put up an abnormally bad one.

Last 5 years ERA- seasons from best to worst (this year bolded):

Gausman: 70, 80, 83, 88, 127
Berrios: 80, 81, 82, 92, 137
Ryu: 54, 58, 62, 97, 148
Bassitt: 54, 76, 86, 89, 89
Kikuchi: 90, 106, 123, 124, 136
Manoah: 59, 72, 139

 

[Preston]

If the Jays win the world series do we change our stance on Shatkins?

 

[MindzEye]

Of course.

 

[Preston]

Of course.

Top 5 team in the league heading into the playoffs where often many things can happen... Am I wrong to not hate their chances?

 

[MyNameIsJonas]

Top 5 team in the league heading into the playoffs where often many things can happen... Am I wrong to not hate their chances?

I think the AL at least is very very very wide open.

On paper Tampa and Baltimore look like the elite, but, Baltimore lost their beast of a closer in Bautista and i refuse to trust that rotation until i actually see them succeed. They have a bunch of non proven names, and no one i consider super scary.

Tampa is scary, but they have lost so many SP to injury, Wander to a rapin' and outisde of being "the rays" also dont appear super scary.

Off experience alone, Houston shouldn't be discounted, but they are playing at a pace similar to Texas, Toronto, and Seattle all of whom could in theory get hot enough to get there.

The NL is a different animal, if we were to face the Braves or Dodgers, we'd be a decided underdog, but anything can happen

 

[zeke]

I'll take the jays on paper against any of them.

It took them 8 years but they built a very good team for once.

 

[worm]

Wait until they lose a couple games.

 

[zeke]

I don't trust the team even a little bit but I've never lost faith in their talent level.

 

[MindzEye]

Top 5 team in the league heading into the playoffs where often many things can happen... Am I wrong to not hate their chances?

Eh, I'm not ready to get on that train. I still see a team that is a super distant 3rd in run differential in their own division and 8th in the AL (12th in MLB). I'm not too horny on them against the other playoff teams in SP matchup either given that it's easily the strength of this team (though a few injuries seem to be helping that out). I've got the Jays rotation at maybe 3rd best in the AL after Minnesota & Seattle though I think we're a toss up with Tampa (even with McLanahan dying) and we're pretty mediocre offensively overall.

But I don't think my assessment would surprise anyone, it hasn't changed.

 

[Preston]

Eh, I'm not ready to get on that train. I still see a team that is a super distant 3rd in run differential in their own division and 8th in the AL (12th in MLB). I'm not too horny on them against the other playoff teams in SP matchup either given that it's easily the strength of this team (though a few injuries seem to be helping that out). I've got the Jays rotation at maybe 3rd best in the AL after Minnesota & Seattle though I think we're a toss up with Tampa (even with McLanahan dying) and we're pretty mediocre offensively overall.

But I don't think my assessment would surprise anyone, it hasn't changed.

Idk it seems like they actually built a solid team this year? I mean do you really blame them for some of their star hitters going to shit at random? Past years, I get it but if they finish in the top 5 after nearly everything went wrong with their studs it kinda supports that they built a damn good roster around their top talent.

Could they have done some things better? Of course, but I don't think many folks would complain if this is the kind of team they built year in year out over the last 8 years. And I get why they're compared to AA but they're never gonna live up to what he has accomplished.

 

[Bleedsblue&white]

Amazing pitching, great defence, so yeah, what happens if Vladdy just hit well, let alone Varsho being a black hole, and various guys being super cold throughout the season.

Oh well....candys and nuts