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The Fucking Offseason Thread - Why bother waiting?

Leafin'

Well-known member
First time in my life I’m laughing instead of crying. Absolutely hilarious how garbage they played the last 3 games. Can’t believe we have Matthews and Marner locked in at 10+ Each for that performance. Losers.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
Just a bad mix that couldn't survive Tavares going down.

Biggest issues for the off season

- If there is a trade out there for Mitch Marner, explore it. Vancouver is a clown show that has some nice pieces up front that might make sense. Calgary has the goof and the goof + + might make sense, Eichel might make some sense (Hey Jack, wanna play wing?). Maybe in another world where the playoffs was officiated legitimately, Mitch could be the guy that it makes sense to pay 11 million to, but I think we've arrived at the time where we can say that he's not Patrick Kane, so let's stop treating him like he is. If there's no trade out there for him, so be it, give him another chance to grow into this, but you have to at least explore it

- Hyman, if he doesn't price himself out, needs to be re signed. I have to reiterate an old gripe though...keep him the fuck off of Matthews' wing. He can't fucking pass. Why are you playing someone on Matty's wing who cannot under any circumstance get him the puck in a shooting situation?

- Stop fucking about with the goalie position. I like Jack, I'm pulling for him. Played way better than any of us hoped for. Swing for the fences on Driedger please. Goalies are voodoo and he's showing small sample voodoo that vezina winners use.

- Spezza is welcome back as long as he wants. He's still an impact guy in that role incredibly.

- Kerfoot played great in the playoffs, but he doesn't bring enough to justify the salary imo. Just hasn't been a good enough 3C for us.

- The blueline, amazingly considering our recent history, needs nothing. Rasmus and Timmy are ready for a real opportunity, if Bogo will come back as a mentor #6/7, bring him back. But we have to play these two. There's a lot of upside here. The top 4 is excellent. The best I've seen as a Leaf fan. You could look for a Holl upgrade, but at 2 million with 2 more years left on it, where are you going to find a serviceable #4 for that?

- I'm good with bringing back old boys on the cheap, but they have to be able to skate. We absolutely lost the plot somewhere bringing in these mediocre and worse skaters because of leadership and long pants. Can we go back to being the fastest team in the league please? It's entirely possible to be hard on the puck, hard to play against, while being of average size or larger, strong and most importantly, fast.
 

MindzEye

Wayward Ditch Pig
I just wanted to get my thoughts out before I try to forget about this until the finals are over and business season picks up.
 

MyNameIsJonas

Well-known member
Just a bad mix that couldn't survive Tavares going down.

Biggest issues for the off season

- If there is a trade out there for Mitch Marner, explore it. Vancouver is a clown show that has some nice pieces up front that might make sense. Calgary has the goof and the goof + + might make sense, Eichel might make some sense (Hey Jack, wanna play wing?). Maybe in another world where the playoffs was officiated legitimately, Mitch could be the guy that it makes sense to pay 11 million to, but I think we've arrived at the time where we can say that he's not Patrick Kane, so let's stop treating him like he is. If there's no trade out there for him, so be it, give him another chance to grow into this, but you have to at least explore it

- Hyman, if he doesn't price himself out, needs to be re signed. I have to reiterate an old gripe though...keep him the **** off of Matthews' wing. He can't fucking pass. Why are you playing someone on Matty's wing who cannot under any circumstance get him the puck in a shooting situation?

- Stop fucking about with the goalie position. I like Jack, I'm pulling for him. Played way better than any of us hoped for. Swing for the fences on Driedger please. Goalies are voodoo and he's showing small sample voodoo that vezina winners use.

- Spezza is welcome back as long as he wants. He's still an impact guy in that role incredibly.

- Kerfoot played great in the playoffs, but he doesn't bring enough to justify the salary imo. Just hasn't been a good enough 3C for us.

- The blueline, amazingly considering our recent history, needs nothing. Rasmus and Timmy are ready for a real opportunity, if Bogo will come back as a mentor #6/7, bring him back. But we have to play these two. There's a lot of upside here. The top 4 is excellent. The best I've seen as a Leaf fan. You could look for a Holl upgrade, but at 2 million with 2 more years left on it, where are you going to find a serviceable #4 for that?

- I'm good with bringing back old boys on the cheap, but they have to be able to skate. We absolutely lost the plot somewhere bringing in these mediocre and worse skaters because of leadership and long pants. Can we go back to being the fastest team in the league please? It's entirely possible to be hard on the puck, hard to play against, while being of average size or larger, strong and most importantly, fast.
This is fairly sound.

I think with Marner though it's rough to expect another team to do a star swap (maybe Eichel and the Sabres)

The more likely offers IMO come from teams that have no stars, no scoring, and a ton of guys on ELC, or signed for much less

Devils, Jackets, Preds, Wings, Sabres

These guys cant attract flies with honey, a star without a NMC is right up their alley

The tough part is the Leafs getting enough ELC/cheap assets back that can help or be flipped, and have a UFA lined up to sign with the free money ( Hamilton?). Makes a trade prior to FA rough

Canucks are interesting ish, i heard Horvat is upset
 

LeafOfFaith

Well-known member
This changed nothing. You don’t trade Marner. If Tavares plays the series, we win. This is just Satan at work trying to fucking destroy our souls.
 

MyNameIsJonas

Well-known member
This changed nothing. You don’t trade Marner. If Tavares plays the series, we win. This is just Satan at work trying to fucking destroy our souls.
I dont want to take away from what Tavares and Muzzin mean to the Leafs, but almost no amount of injuries is an excuse for blowing a 3-1 series lead to the Habs in the first round. This isnt a CF against a legit team. And there is certainly no excuse for the lackluster effort of some of the big boys.
 

GEEMAN

Well-known member
I dont want to take away from what Tavares and Muzzin mean to the Leafs, but almost no amount of injuries is an excuse for blowing a 3-1 series lead to the Habs in the first round. This isnt a CF against a legit team. And there is certainly no excuse for the lackluster effort of some of the big boys.

The lack of effort and urgency is what I can’t understand
 
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