OT: American Politics
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theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
how much you make, counsellor? don't feel you need to answer that, but i bet you its way, way, way more than i make. and thats 100% fine. i'm not going to begrudge you what you make. or the fact that because you make as much as you do, the rest of us have to pay way higher insurance premiums to protect ourselves from you.
how much you make, counsellor? don't feel you need to answer that, but i bet you its way, way, way more than i make. and thats 100% fine. i'm not going to begrudge you what you make. or the fact that because you make as much as you do, the rest of us have to pay way higher insurance premiums to protect ourselves from you.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Just teasing you. I saw the video and I've read a lot about Afghanistan. It's a mess and the notion of "progress" is dubious. We're dealing with self-interested crooks at all levels. At this point, most people over there don't believe or have the patience needed for democracy. Our "friends' in government are lining their pockets and building dream homes in Dubai (for their eventual getaway). The government actually pays the Taliban 20% of American aid to stop them from attacking, so the US is basically subsidizing the Taliban.
I read this in The New Yorker and all the major networks have access to these reports but I guess the public isn't that interested.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Mitt didn't serve. But his Dad was for the war (until he changed his mind) and Mitt was annoyed by the protestors on campus so he started his own protest group to combat them.
theREALkoreaboy
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why is military service, or a lack thereof, an issue only for GOP candidates? why would anyone bring up romney's lack of service as a line of attack? take a look at your own boy. he was driving around campus toking up in a van when he was of military age.
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Yeah your insurance premiums are so high.
I probably pay as much tax as you make so don't get all high and mighty. People like me pay your ****ing salary so you should kiss our ass instead of bitching about a few dollars in insurance premiums.
That being said, in the end, you will have a nice gold plated retirement where Cork and me might if we are lucky eat cat food if the market collapses.
Yeah your insurance premiums are so high.
I probably pay as much tax as you make so don't get all high and mighty. People like me pay your ****ing salary so you should kiss our ass instead of bitching about a few dollars in insurance premiums.
That being said, in the end, you will have a nice gold plated retirement where Cork and me might if we are lucky eat cat food if the market collapses.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
wonderful. you pay more in taxes than i make. bully for you. you know what? thats fine by me. and people like me pay YOUR salary, counsellor.
wonderful. you pay more in taxes than i make. bully for you. you know what? thats fine by me. and people like me pay YOUR salary, counsellor.
johnunit
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Because the GOP tends to send the current millitary aged americans off to war a whole lot more often. And seems far more likely to in the near future.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
how much more do we all pay for medical services to cover doctors' liability? to pay for your salaries? am i caterwauling about that?
uhm,
no.
how much more do we all pay for medical services to cover doctors' liability? to pay for your salaries? am i caterwauling about that?
uhm,
no.
lecoqsportif
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Yeah, I think the tough part for people to swallow is that the Taliban will be back in power in 2015, this will be very difficult to message. The question is, after all that has happened, do they understand that they cannot host a terrorist NGO on their soil that commits egregious crimes in other countries? Ultimately, the west cannot control who is in power there, and we cannot stop these medieval arseholes from shooting 14 year girls in the head. But we can make it perfectly clear to them the existentialist consequences of allowing their country to be a staging ground. They are the sovereigns, and they need to start acting like one.
Another thing, a lot has changed. India is a much bigger factor, and there's no way in hell Pakistan wants to go through this experience again. The Saudis are aware (that the west is aware) of their complicity in terms of $$$$. The return of the Taliban and their fellow travelers is distasteful, but I fear it is inevitable. That said, that doesn't mean they will have the support, capacity, or even the motivation to pull another attack. After the attacks on 9-11 and Mumbai, they have been badly degraded.
The question is his: is the average Joe in the west able to accept this after all the blood and gold that has been spent?
lecoqsportif
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Because they can't govern without starting oil wars.
corksens
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Your salary is in the top 10% of all Canadians. You work 10 out of the 12 months. You have virtually no risk of personal liability in the work place. You have full health and dental...and you have one of the top pension agreements in the country. You quite literally, have it all.
Your "thousands" of dollars per year is nothing. 4-5-6k a year won't amount to jackshit when you goto retire. Hence why I am clamoring for pension reform to help balance it out.
No guarantees. Larger independent contribution. Longer years working to reach full pension. No pension for longer than years worked.
You traded off nothing.
Your salary is in the top 10% of all Canadians. You work 10 out of the 12 months. You have virtually no risk of personal liability in the work place. You have full health and dental...and you have one of the top pension agreements in the country. You quite literally, have it all.
Your "thousands" of dollars per year is nothing. 4-5-6k a year won't amount to jackshit when you goto retire. Hence why I am clamoring for pension reform to help balance it out.
No guarantees. Larger independent contribution. Longer years working to reach full pension. No pension for longer than years worked.
corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
No pension. No benefits. No security.
Admit it, collective bargaining over the years has failed the province and provided a huge unfair cushion under your head at the expense of the rest of the province.
We're going to have a major issue in 20-30 years. We're going to have 10's of thousands of people retiring and a tax base that can't afford it. Add to it the fact that most people will never save enough in their own RRSP's and you have an environment with haves and have nots. That won't last. Changes will be made and kb will be begging to keep half of what collective bargaining has "earned" for him.
Retirement winter is coming.
I don't make that much more than you.
No pension. No benefits. No security.
Admit it, collective bargaining over the years has failed the province and provided a huge unfair cushion under your head at the expense of the rest of the province.
We're going to have a major issue in 20-30 years. We're going to have 10's of thousands of people retiring and a tax base that can't afford it. Add to it the fact that most people will never save enough in their own RRSP's and you have an environment with haves and have nots. That won't last. Changes will be made and kb will be begging to keep half of what collective bargaining has "earned" for him.
Retirement winter is coming.
corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
We bill for our respective services. If people and corporations didn't feel we provide a service of value then we would be out of luck. Our compensation is higher than yours, but our risk is head and shoulders more than yours. A true give and take.
You just don't get the major point here.
Your contributions, even with the backing and growth of the top pension plan in the country, are in no way shape or form enough to cover the upcoming liabilities when those pensions begin to be called in.
There. Isn't. Enough. Money.
You know, the same argument you make against Obamacare?
count and I don't have "salaries".
We bill for our respective services. If people and corporations didn't feel we provide a service of value then we would be out of luck. Our compensation is higher than yours, but our risk is head and shoulders more than yours. A true give and take.
You just don't get the major point here.
Your contributions, even with the backing and growth of the top pension plan in the country, are in no way shape or form enough to cover the upcoming liabilities when those pensions begin to be called in.
There. Isn't. Enough. Money.
You know, the same argument you make against Obamacare?
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
this is full of outright lies and fallacies. we have "no risk of personal liability" in teaching? you have no idea what youre talking about. none. if i could breach confidentiality, i could tell you several stories of very significant damages suffered by teachers doing their jobs.
you think i only pay $5K a year for my pension? not even close.
you think i have a cadillac benefits package? again- you dont know what youre talking about. and this is an area i have looked at specifically. elementary teachers' benefits are by no means top-end.
this is full of outright lies and fallacies. we have "no risk of personal liability" in teaching? you have no idea what youre talking about. none. if i could breach confidentiality, i could tell you several stories of very significant damages suffered by teachers doing their jobs.
you think i only pay $5K a year for my pension? not even close.
you think i have a cadillac benefits package? again- you dont know what youre talking about. and this is an area i have looked at specifically. elementary teachers' benefits are by no means top-end.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
call your compensation whatever you want- you admit you make a lot more than i do. i dont give a f*ck what you call it. a portion of mine is called "pension". f*ck off.
and you're right its "give and take". we give up the ability to "make a lot more" like the really, really important people such as you and count make, and in return we take the stability and the pension.
and if you think teacher pensions are what is sinking the economy, again, you can f*ck off. your industry is far, far, far more responsible for sinking the economy than my pension is. and did i caterwaul when we all bailed your industry out to the tune of TRILLIONS of dollars worldwide?
call your compensation whatever you want- you admit you make a lot more than i do. i dont give a f*ck what you call it. a portion of mine is called "pension". f*ck off.
and you're right its "give and take". we give up the ability to "make a lot more" like the really, really important people such as you and count make, and in return we take the stability and the pension.
and if you think teacher pensions are what is sinking the economy, again, you can f*ck off. your industry is far, far, far more responsible for sinking the economy than my pension is. and did i caterwaul when we all bailed your industry out to the tune of TRILLIONS of dollars worldwide?
lecoqsportif
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
lol
lol