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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

Many vaccine skeptics are waiting for a vax using traditional technology to become available, as opposed to the newer mRNA bit. This is one of them. Side effects aren't quite as intense either! And the effectiveness is off the charts. Works quite well on omicron too based on lab studies, but they're still modifying the product just in case.

They just expected it to be ready like 8 months ago and have had a hell of a time ramping up production. So they still have a lot to prove!
 
Kiddo is stuffy today. Lots of saline and suction coming his way. Seems to be in good spirits and his breathing is ok. Hubs is hibernating in the basement. I’m fatigued and have a slight headache and ears feel off. Tired behind my eyes. Hoping my #teammoderna Status help me keep it like this. Fingers crossed. Thankfully little man had at least one dose.
 
blkngldbabe said:
Kiddo is stuffy today. Lots of saline and suction coming his way. Seems to be in good spirits and his breathing is ok. Hubs is hibernating in the basement. I’m fatigued and have a slight headache and ears feel off. Tired behind my eyes. Hoping my #teammoderna Status help me keep it like this. Fingers crossed. Thankfully little man had at least one dose.
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Sorry to hear. Hang in there. All the people around me so far, including kids, have had similar symptoms. So far so good for all. I'm sure you all will recover shortly.
 
blkngldbabe said:
Hubs is a hot mess though. Bed ridden. Hacking. Not sure about if he’s feverish though. I’d assume so. He sounds awful.
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:( usually when someone is like this, s/he is brought soups, have their temp checked, medication, constant care, etc. one of the worst things about COVID is that patients by force are left alone to deal with it. Will make things worse all around.
 
CTheBigPicture said:
:( usually when someone is like this, s/he is brought soups, have their temp checked, medication, constant care, etc. one of the worst things about COVID is that patients by force are left alone to deal with it. Will make things worse all around.
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Pretty sure we all have it. He isn’t interested in much. I moved him up to our room with the tv so he could be convalescing in more comfort. Brought water and meds. We can probably all hang out. He’s just exhausted 🥱 and feeling rough. He has to be. He’s never down so the fact that he’s still in bed at almost 10am is very telling.
 
Nice nerdicle that better describes one side of that fun debate several pages back in a nutshell. I do think when people discuss timelines on having broad enough immunity to make covid significantly less threatening we're prolly talking decades, not years. But things SHOULD slowly improve!

www.mercurynews.com

Living with COVID-19: How the virus could turn into the common cold, or something far worse

How does this end? Experts offer predictions about COVID-19 future evolutionary path.
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Could the next variant be more deadly? That’s happened with other viruses. For example, a herpes virus that afflicts chickens, called Marek’s disease, has been growing more severe since the 1970s, he said. And a deadly virus used to control rabbit populations in Australia turned mild, over time — but now, in a surprise twist, it’s killing again.
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“If another variant arises that’s transmissible and a little bit better able to infect the lungs, then we’ll be back to where we were with the delta variant,” said Dr. Stanley Perlman, professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa. But that’s not inevitable; from the virus’s perspective, it doesn’t care if we live or die.

The next winning variant will be the one that is most agile at dodging our immune defenses, agreed experts.
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As we learn to live with the virus, “we’re building our repertoire against a breadth of variants. So we’re making it harder for the virus to find ways to evade,” said Ayscue. While the virus can adapt, “it‘ll probably be less and less effective at doing so,” so infected people will have milder cases.

Significantly, there are only a limited number of genetic changes the virus can make, added Perlman. “It’s like a key in the lock,” he said. “There’s only so much you can change the key to still stay in the lock. It’s not infinite.”
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Early early data in a small sample:



Not in pill form so not ideal tbh... But early data looks decent enough. It's a statistically significant effectiveness, even if the 78% may not be the most precise as the sample size increases in the larger trials, we know effectiveness is more than likely >0%. The more options the better. We'll take it.
 
hockeylover said:
Still find it crazy how much symptoms vary for different people. Even before vaccines, I've seen people in their 30s and 40s who are athletic/active hospitalized. and 70 year olds get it and it's barely a thing.
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Doesn't this have to do with viral load though? So length or exposure etc...?
 
BG said:
Doesn't this have to do with viral load though? So length or exposure etc...?
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That's one theory I've seen but that hasn't been confirmed. It's more likely to do with everyone's immune system being completely unique. Being fit could improve odds as well (at least when it comes to limiting severe events, maybe not so much with becoming symptomatic). Some people get a super human immune response after being infected or getting vaccinated, others barely get anything and some immune systems will just naturally fight off infection better than others, etc. A lot of factors and nerds don't really understand the weighting of each factor just yet and probably never will.
 
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