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GDT #8 - 2023/10/28 - TOR @ NSH 7pm - LoF Revenge Game

LeafOfFaith said:
Whatever, you can have your position.

I don't agree with playing one of our worst players in OT.

It's criminal when all these awesome players are available.

Not wanting to burn out a star, when we've seen these stars all play lots in OT and be fine for second and even third shifts, isn't something that worries me. We have incredible forward depth for 3v3 and we should rely on it.
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You find this criminal and I find it criminal to watch Matthews chase players around for 2 minutes. And then Nylander goes on... And then there's a drop off when the next set of guys comes on. I want Matthews and ideally Nylander to give them 2, 3 minutes of them having the puck. Them chasing? They might as well not even be on the ice. There's little that distinguishes matthews chasing vs Kampf chasing. There's likely no drop off.
 
3v3 win/loss record while on the ice as Leafs - Active Leafs minimum 5min

Liljegren 2-0 (1.000)
Nylander 13-10 (.565)
Matthews 21-21 (.500)
Kampf 0-0 (.500)
Rielly 15-21 (.417)
Tavares 10-14 (.416)
Marner 13-19 (.406)
Brodie 2-3 (.400)
 
zeke said:
3v3 win/loss record while on the ice as Leafs - Active Leafs minimum 5min

Liljegren 2-0 (1.000)
Nylander 13-10 (.565)
Matthews 21-21 (.500)
Kampf 0-0 (.500)
Rielly 15-21 (.417)
Tavares 10-14 (.416)
Marner 13-19 (.406)
Brodie 2-3 (.400)
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What's the TOI? 5 minutes for Kampf and 30 minutes for the others?
 
And if that list is to be of any value as an argument for Kampf, why are we putting awful Marner out there with him in OT last night?
 
3v3 TOI per OT Played as Leaf

Rielly 1:09
Matthews 1:07
Marner 0:57
Tavares 0:53
Nylander 0:47
Brodie 0:27
Liljegren 0:19
Kampf 0:11

So on average Kampf eats up 11 seconds of OT time while giving up next to no scoring chances.
 
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zeke said:
Something like that. Kampf doesn't get stuck out there in OT very much.
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His 0-0 record is pretty meaningless by comparison to the others then, isn't it?

And I don't care about the times that he wins the draw and stays out for 11 seconds. I care about the times he loses them and we have a guy with zero offensive impact out there. I care that he sucks at faceoffs this year and we're using him like he's a faceoff king.
 
I had enough legit aggravation from posting yesterday that I’m going to try to make myself scarce this week. When posting on the forum causes enough annoyance to spill over into your mood in real life, you know you need a break.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I had enough legit aggravation from posting yesterday that I’m going to try to make myself scarce this week. When posting on the forum causes enough annoyance to spill over into your mood in real life, you know you need a break.
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If debating about David Kampf has a negative impact on your daily life then I would agree that taking a break is wise. I love you and you and your amazing takes and petty debates with ME are truly the co-MVP.
 
I picture every 3v3OT loss as a terrific rush chance that results in a great scoring chance, followed by a great save while Marner either falls down, or gets trapped behind the opponents net and the puck going the other way for an easy game-winner.

I don't think it's the players, they just don't coach it very well IMO.
 
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