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2024 Draft

My issue with players in the MHL is the same for Demidov as it was for But and Simashev last year: Big fish, small pond. The Russians haven't been in any international tournaments, so we can't compare them with the international prospects. The MHL is just dreadful. It's probably better than the AJHL, but inferior to the NBCHL.

I'll always have a little hesitation with those players.
 
worm said:
This draft smells of us force fitting a forward and is regretting it. Like kk being a C.
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They won't do it, but I'd take Sam Dickinson and figure shit out afterwards. Trade Matheson this summer or by next year's trade deadline.

Or, alternatively, see if we can trade down to 8 or 9 and pick Sennecke.
 
worm said:
The more I learn about the forwards the more I want a D
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That was the risk with taking Reinbacher last year. He might end up being awesome, but we're probably going to end up drafting for need and over-reaching for a forward.

The question becomes, which do you prefer?

Leonard & (Insert d-man here from this draft)
or
Reinbacher & one of Lindstrom/Iginla/Sennecke
 
GGpX said:
That was the risk with taking Reinbacher last year. He might end up being awesome, but we're probably going to end up drafting for need and over-reaching for a forward.

The question becomes, which do you prefer?

Leonard & (Insert d-man here from this draft)
or
Reinbacher & one of Lindstrom/Iginla/Sennecke
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Michkov :p
 
I dont want Marner he's a proven loser.
GGpX said:
That was the risk with taking Reinbacher last year. He might end up being awesome, but we're probably going to end up drafting for need and over-reaching for a forward.

The question becomes, which do you prefer?

Leonard & (Insert d-man here from this draft)
or
Reinbacher & one of Lindstrom/Iginla/Sennecke
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Boisvert had a good point on Processus when he said it's better to draft defensemen at the beginning of your rebuild because forwards take less time to develop so you can extend your contending window by timing it right.

But yes in term of needs or player quality it would have been better to draft Leonard last year and draft a D this year, I think.
 
habs25th said:
I dont want Marner he's a proven loser.

Boisvert had a good point on Processus when he said it's better to draft defensemen at the beginning of your rebuild because forwards take less time to develop so you can extend your contending window by timing it right.

But yes in term of needs or player quality it would have been better to draft Leonard last year and draft a D this year, I think.
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I understand his point, but I don't entirely agree with him.

Defensemen are much harder to project in the NHL because of what you mentioned: They take longer to develop. Defensemen are rarely good in the NHL until they're in their early 20s and often times, the best d-men to come out of the draft aren't the first ones taken.

It's much more common to find good d-men later in the draft than it is to find forwards. Most of the time, the best forwards in a draft are almost exclusively in the lottery range. If you look at the leading scorers in the playoffs at forward, half them were taken in the top 10 of the draft.
 
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most GMs don't want to risk it

so, I can see HuGo wanting to trade up or down while not finding a dance partner
 
This is one of the rare years where I think a pick swap trade scenario is possible.

In most years, the NHL lists are almost always nearly identical, with minor divergences here and there. That's also reflected with the public lists.

Because the lists from 2 to 13 or so are going to be so out of wack and different, there could be teams that are picking in the 8 to 10 range and have a player ranked #2 on their list (Silayev?) when it's our time to draft.

Calgary seems like the obvious trade partner. Maybe #5 for #9 and #41?
 
CH1 said:
most GMs don't want to risk it

so, I can see HuGo wanting to trade up or down while not finding a dance partner
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Utah will want to ice a better team in front of the new crowd. So they may be motivated to trade a pick for established players.
 
GGpX said:
I understand his point, but I don't entirely agree with him.

Defensemen are much harder to project in the NHL because of what you mentioned: They take longer to develop. Defensemen are rarely good in the NHL until they're in their early 20s and often times, the best d-men to come out of the draft aren't the first ones taken.

It's much more common to find good d-men later in the draft than it is to find forwards. Most of the time, the best forwards in a draft are almost exclusively in the lottery range. If you look at the leading scorers in the playoffs at forward, half them were taken in the top 10 of the draft.
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It is usually a top 5 pick at the top 10 of the leader board unless they are Russian.

Seem to have much better odds at getting top D later on in the draft
 
GGpX said:
That was the risk with taking Reinbacher last year. He might end up being awesome, but we're probably going to end up drafting for need and over-reaching for a forward.

The question becomes, which do you prefer?

Leonard & (Insert d-man here from this draft)
or
Reinbacher & one of Lindstrom/Iginla/Sennecke
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Are you saying we are getting a chance for a re-do?
 
CH1 said:
trading up/down in the NHL has been historically tricky...the market is pretty illiquid
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You trade down only if you think you can still get the guy you want, but that’s really really hard to predict, and the compensation is rarely worth the risk of not getting that player.
 
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