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Johnny Ringo is an underrated star character of Tombstone….one of the greats at that western archtype.

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Jeff Fahey’s “Tyree” in Silverado was another…..he actually feels like the spiritual predecessor to Biehn’s Johnny Ringo.

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I've never watched it. Westerns bore me, for the most part. There are some great ones, but most are way too formulaic for my taste, or are just hyper violent for the sake of being hyper violent.

I think if you actually sat down and wen’t through the list of great ones, you’d have a hard time saying the genre bores you though…..yes it was milked to death in a manner that would make our current superhero movie era blush.

….but it also had some of the most legendary story telling of all time, done under the umbrella of “western”..

I’d almost argue it can stand toe to toe with any other genre, when it comes to totality of all time great flicks.

High Noon, Dollars Trilogy, Unforgiven, Outlaw Josey Wales, Wild Bunch, Magnificent Seven, Lonesome Dove, Stagecoach, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid (best buddy movie of all time?), McCabe & Mrs Miller, Assassination of Jesse James, Vera Cruz (and a fuckton of other Elmore Leonard adaptations, like 3:10 to Yuma, etc), The Ox Bow Incident, Butchers Crossing, Blood Meridian, True Grit, Shane, The Shootist, The Gunfighter. (A number of those I list cause of their books admittedly, but still, all the same genre)…Rio Bravo & Red River films that Ford set standards with, that others then had to meet in other genres….Once Upon a Time in the West, The Searchers, and on and on and on….


Plus you have the entire Neo-Noire genre that you don’t get without westerns as the base….No Country, Hell of High Water,


Once you've seen Blazing Saddles you can never look at the entore genre the same way again.


Takes all that original quality for a Blazing Saddles to exist, but then you also get one of the greatest comedies of all time, within that genre.


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I think if you actually sat down and wen’t through the list of great ones, you’d have a hard time saying the genre bores you though…..yes it was milked to death in a manner that would make our current superhero movie era blush.

….but it also had some of the most legendary story telling of all time, done under the umbrella of “western”..

I’d almost argue it can stand toe to toe with any other genre, when it comes to totality of all time great flicks.

High Noon, Dollars Trilogy, Unforgiven, Outlaw Josey Wales, Wild Bunch, Magnificent Seven, Lonesome Dove, Stagecoach, Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid (best buddy movie of all time?), McCabe & Mrs Miller, Assassination of Jesse James, Vera Cruz (and a fuckton of other Elmore Leonard adaptations, like 3:10 to Yuma, etc), The Ox Bow Incident, Butchers Crossing, Blood Meridian, True Grit, Shane, The Shootist, The Gunfighter. (A number of those I list cause of their books admittedly, but still, all the same genre)…Rio Bravo & Red River films that Ford set standards with, that others then had to meet in other genres….Once Upon a Time in the West, The Searchers, and on and on and on….


Plus you have the entire Neo-Noire genre that you don’t get without westerns as the base….No Country, Hell of High Water,





Takes all that original quality for a Blazing Saddles to exist, but then you also get one of the greatest comedies of all time, within that genre.


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Oh I've seen some really good ones and enjoyed them.

High Noon
The Man Who Shot Liberty Vallance
The Searchers
Hang Em High
Unforgiven
Shane

But as a genre it's not really a favorite. I prefer classic war movies to classic westerns.
 
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Johnny Ringo is an underrated star character of Tombstone….one of the greats at that western archtype.

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Jeff Fahey’s “Tyree” in Silverado was another…..he actually feels like the spiritual predecessor to Biehn’s Johnny Ringo.

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Gotta say, I saw Tombstone in theatres and liked it. That said, over the years the love for it has grown as a Western classic and I think the film has a very weak last 20 minutes that hurt it a lot.
I prefer Costner's Wyatt Earp film to be honest.

I went to visit Tombstone a couple years back and they play the film (Russell one) on a loop everywhere you go. Apparently, Michael Biehn lives in Arizona and has done some of the OK corral reanactments they do.
 
Gotta say, I saw Tombstone in theatres and liked it. That said, over the years the love for it has grown as a Western classic and I think the film has a very weak last 20 minutes that hurt it a lot.
I prefer Costner's Wyatt Earp film to be honest.

I went to visit Tombstone a couple years back and they play the film (Russell one) on a loop everywhere you go. Apparently, Michael Biehn lives in Arizona and has done some of the OK corral reanactments they do.
There's no doubt that Costner's movie is the better movie... But there's not a scene in that movie that draws you in the way any Val Kilmer scene does... Especially any Doc/Ringo scenes.
 
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