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Worth keeping in mind that this is all about manufacturing consent domestically.

What Canadians actually think or want means less than nothing. What’s important is that this annexation talk becomes normalized American political discourse. And for Trump’s base to accept as an immutable truth the idea that the majority of Canadians are crying out to become part of Trump’s USA.
 
i don't get it - you were pretty vocal in the american politics thread that we should be talking more about canadian politics and it was way more interesting to you. then the election rolls around and this is your only comment the whole cycle?
That's a fair comment. You're right.
This election is the first I was very torn on who to vote for as I hated everyone. NDP use to be my fall-back party before Jagmeet arrived.
The one thing about American politics since I said that is it's really crossed over into Canadian politics more than I ever though. Trump helps gift the election to the Liberals.
 
Worth keeping in mind that this is all about manufacturing consent domestically.

What Canadians actually think or want means less than nothing. What’s important is that this annexation talk becomes normalized American political discourse. And for Trump’s base to accept as an immutable truth the idea that the majority of Canadians are crying out to become part of Trump’s USA.
and they are well on their way
 
I don't think we should underestimate how big a blow this is to Maga International, and how big a boost it is to the democratic west. Us Canadians sometimes think we're a big deal but mostly get a little shy about embracing it. But we are a pretty big deal and especially now in the eyes of the leaders of the democratic west. They needed this almost more than we did.

This is USA Jr., america's closest friend and ally, and most similar culturally, instantly and remarkably turning on a dime against Trump 2.0's governance strategy.

I think sometimes we don't realize that currently Maga truly believes it is the voice of the people rising up globally against what they think is an evil empire. They 100% think they are in a pure ascendancy and that revolution is here.

To get so clearly rejected by their little brother is a big fin deal. They have been able to sort of ignore or bury other bad signs like Labor in England and general global reactions to tarriffs, but this one is both too cut and dry and too close to home to pooh pooh.

Even better that this election couldn't have been more clearly about the policies themselves, and nothing else. PP had a huge lead in the polls recently, so they can't blame corrupt polling (or corrupt elections by extension as they were in line with that polling, and the clear and obvious election issue was Maga pure and simple. There's literally no other explanation for what just happened. It's pretty perfect.

All the global democratic leaders rushed to loudly congratulate Carney in the wee hours as soon as they woke up. They are super happy.

NOW, of course, Carney has to use this and use this fast. There is a rare opportunity for quick and urgent action to form a new global democratic alliance and it sounds a bit crazy but we actually might be the best choice to lead it. We might be the only choice - the only country with both the economic heft and the lack of old grudges (like all european countries have) to get something real done.
 
PP winning and nothing positive actually changing could maybe have opened up some eyes! But now everyone is gonna be wondering "what if" for the next few years because they like to blame Politicians for their own personal struggles.
Ya. Carney will get blamed for USA stupidity impacting us but he is gonna set us up as well as possible. Good for canada, bad for liberals
 
Thanks for this. I did see them but I guess I'm just wondering how long we have to wait.

They'd need a sweep of the ones they're behind in, I guess?
 
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