Habs Season Thread: Offseason 2025

[GEEMAN]

The real issue is the mass part. Their argument is if it was a knife maybe one or two are dead instead. It's a stupid argument because even one dead is too many. Sick people will find a way to kill. Period.

They think taking away the guns cures the problem. It's a joke.

Bingo

 

[GrandWazoo]

No its the mental health and fucked up people not the guns

If your mentally deranged to attack a school with kids you will find a way to get it done

Other options than just guns

Yet it’s always with guns. How many elementary or high school shootings or attacks did we have in Canada?

Obviously those people have mental issues, but guns are the catalysts.

 

[Habsy]

Yet it’s always with guns. How many elementary or high school shootings or attacks did we have in Canada?

Obviously those people have mental issues, but guns are the catalysts.

The mental issues are the catalyst. Guns are the means. 10 dead or 1 dead, doesn't matter.

You're trying to bail out a boat with a thimble.

 

[Alan C]

You can’t talk gun people out of it with logic. I haven’t sewn many posters in my internet travels more arrogant than Habsy has become. He doesn’t want to discuss but rather demean those with varying opinions.

 

[Habsy]

You can’t talk gun people out of it with logic. I haven’t sewn many posters in my internet travels more arrogant than Habsy has become. He doesn’t want to discuss but rather demean those with varying opinions.

If a gun is laying on a table, will it hurt anyone?

I get the argument of people that want gun bans. I really do but all you're doing is removing the onus of the individual to be responsible. I will never agree to that. The onus isn't on me to control someone else and you can keep the nanny state mentality.

Your position is not more valid than mine. There's zero logic to your position. Only fear based thinking.

 

[Habsy]

So stop thinking and implying that I'm ignorant in my beliefs with your "logic" that isn't really logical.

My "arrogance" stems from the derision. I'm not going to and have had the discussing a hundred times so how about you stop being arrogant in your assumptions?

 

[Alan C]

If a gun is laying on a table, will it hurt anyone?

I get the argument of people that want gun bans. I really do but all your doing is removing the onus of the individual to be responsible. I will never agree to that. The onus isn't on me and you can keep the nanny state mentality.

Your position is not more valid than mine.

This isn’t in just in regards to guns I could give a ahit.. It’s in regards to how you have been treating other posters in regards to all topics. But your board your rules.

 

[Habsy]

This isn’t in just in regards to guns I could give a ahit.. It’s in regards to how you have been treating other posters in regards to all topics. But your board your rules.

One poster that I can't stand. One.

You don't see the arrogant implication in your position either. I don't tell you how to live, ever, don't tell me how to either.

If my sometimes ruthless style offends you so be it.

 

[Alan C]

I’m not an arrogant prick online or in real life. I’m not telling you how to live either lol. But you are disparaging to varying opinions in a belligerent manner.

 

[Habsy]

I’m not an arrogant prick online or in real life. I’m not telling you how to live either lol. But you are disparaging to varying opinions in a belligerent manner.

Yet I can have long conversations with most here and have. I find the poster I was talking to annoying and have zero patience for the banal crap he posts over and over. You make it sound like the actual discussions on varying positions haven't been had.

I don't apologize for belligerence to those that I feel deserve it. I will disparage whomever I feel does and have been disparaged in return.

If you don't have my respect I don't care if I have yours, at all. Most here have it, there's a short list that do not. You may find that arrogant, have at it and be judgmental, I call it life in the world we live in, not the one you may have dreamed up in your mind.

And you are arrogant, just in a different manner.

 

[Habsy]

And I don't make any money off this site so stay, go, matters not. Seems like your the one that can't handle opposing opinions from strong characters.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

You're a fucking twit. There are over 380 million guns in a country of 350 million people. If it was the guns you'd have way more mass shootings. You are a fucking libtard cuck that allows his fears to be fueled by narratives created by other libtard cucks.

Millions of people with guns that don't do anything wrong, it's not the guns fucktard, it's the human behind the gun. Simple logic is lost on you.

USA/CAN Comparison (per 100K population)

Avg. Killing Rate - using handguns

USA: 4.05
CAN: 0.28

Avg. Killing Rate - using firearms other than handguns

USA: 1.32
CAN: 0.67

Avg. Killing Rate - all types of firearms

USA: 5.37
CAN: 0.94

Non-Shooting methods of killing

USA: 3.31
CAN: 1.79

As we can see, the disparity is wide, to say the least, and if it really is about mental health rather than guns there should be a similar disparity in the rates of mental illness between the countries. But guess what? There isn't.

Rate of Mental Illness - Depression

USA: 8.7%
CAN: 8.2%

Rate of Mental Health Service Use

USA: 10.6%
CAN: 10.1%

Likelihood of using mental health services

USA: 36.5% (without medical insurance)
USA: 55.7% (with medical insurance)
CAN: 55.7%

Practically the same from one country to the other.

Ergo, if the per capita murder rate is so much higher in the US than in Canada, but their per capita rate of mental illness is virtually identical, then it logically follows that mental illness is not the primary factor in that higher murder rate.

It's the fucking guns.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

I thought it was a groin. He didn't get over rightly on that Chychrun goal.

The words "torn" and "groin" never sound good when used in the same sentence.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

One poster that I can't stand. One.

You don't see the arrogant implication in your position either. I don't tell you how to live, ever, don't tell me how to either.

If my sometimes ruthless style offends you so be it.

It ain't just me. Look into your soul, as Count likes to say. Or just look at your posts. I'm far from the only person you've derided with ad hominem attacks.

 

[Alan C]

And I don't make any money off this site so stay, go, matters not. Seems like your the one that can't handle opposing opinions from strong characters.

I haven’t been in an argument here since 2007 so think I can handle strong opinions lol. This isn’t personal just feels like you tone has changed in the last year.

 

[Habsy]

I haven’t been in an argument here since 2007 so think I can handle strong opinions lol. This isn’t personal just feels like you tone has changed in the last year.

Well that's unintentional man.

It's a daily struggle for me to not ban that guy. Believe me I get constant requests for it.

As far as others go? I don't sling the mud that I do to him. Maybe Geeman sometimes but then I feel badly that I did it. To the Banal Bimbo? Nope never.

 

[WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou]

Yet I can have long conversations with most here and have. I find the poster I was talking to annoying and have zero patience for the banal crap he posts over and over. You make it sound like the actual discussions on varying positions haven't been had.

I don't apologize for belligerence to those that I feel deserve it. I will disparage whomever I feel does and have been disparaged in return.

If you don't have my respect I don't care if I have yours, at all. Most here have it, there's a short list that do not. You may find that arrogant, have at it and be judgmental, I call it life in the world we live in, not the one you may have dreamed up in your mind.

And you are arrogant, just in a different manner.

How on earth is Alan arrogant? He doesn't have an arrogant bone in his body. I've known him (mostly online, although we've met in person) for close to 30 years.

 

[Habsy]

It ain't just me. Look into your soul, as Count likes to say. Or just look at your posts. I'm far from the only person you've derided with ad hominem attacks.

Besides Geeman who?

A lot of it on the leaf board is banter. Are you also including the ones that I receive? They don't bother me.

 

[Habsy]

How on earth is Alan arrogant? He doesn't have an arrogant bone in his body. I've known him (mostly online, although we've met in person) for close to 30 years.

Not getting into this with you. You'll end up banned.

As for Alan there are many forms of arrogance. Moral high ground play is one of them.

 

[Habsy]

FFS, when's the season starting?