worm
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That can be a bugger to recover from.
Habs Season Thread: Offseason 2025
- Thread starter Habsy
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That can be a bugger to recover from.
worm
Well-known member
Ya. It's not an either or issue. But Holy fuck did the summer debates start early. Haven't even had the draft yet.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
Probably because we're trading all our draft picks.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
So if your only issue is mass shootings then got it. Well considering it's in the name then it's the guns. You're framing your argument away from the salient issue. If your argument is "shootings" then yes the weapon of course is clearly the gun.
I will maintain however that the gun in question, laying untouched on the floor, will kill nobody. You're missing the catalyst.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
I would say that a gun laying on the floor will not be untouched for long. If a toddler finds it and kills themselves or someone else is it their "fault"?
And mass shootings was the specific thing to which I was referring. Neither of us have the time to deep dive this.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Oh OK. So it's the human then?
Last time a toddler committed a mass shooting? I'll wait.
I'm an advocate of proper gun storage btw. I have a very large and very expensive multi-lock gun safe.
Why stop at mass shootings? Drunk driving kills more people. Take away the cars then.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
From Unforgiving Places: The Unexpected Origins of American Gun Violence, by Jens Ludwig.
"An estimated 80 percent [of U.S: gun shootings] seem to be crimes of passion — including rage. They’re arguments that could be defused but aren’t, then end in tragedy because someone has a gun. Most violent crimes are the result of human behavior gone temporarily haywire, not premeditated acts for financial benefit."
"An estimated 80 percent [of U.S: gun shootings] seem to be crimes of passion — including rage. They’re arguments that could be defused but aren’t, then end in tragedy because someone has a gun. Most violent crimes are the result of human behavior gone temporarily haywire, not premeditated acts for financial benefit."
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
I will get banned again soon, worry not.
Because driving is a privilege and not a right, it's very easy to deal with drunk drivers. You simply take away their driving privileges. Recidivist drunk drivers can and should be banned from driving for life but they rarely are unless there's a fatality. That is the fault of lawmakers and shyster strip mall lawyers.
But because guns are a "right", they are harder to remove from people who ought not to have them. Personally, I think the way to solve the gun issue is to simply mandate that, like an automobile, you must insure your firearms. The GOP may ignore the actuarial tables but insurance companies don't. The insurance industry will put the firearms industry out of business just from the high insurance rates.
The handful of hunters here in Alberta whom I've met tell me that the biggest impediment to their use of guns is the cost of bullets. Most of them fire no more than a half dozen bullets per year when hunting.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
Sure.
You might not have mental issues but I still wouldn’t trust you not to use your gun if WeHave was nearby
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Guns are taken away from mass shooters too. Double standard.
Same with shooters.
Right or privilege is irrelevant. Both drunk driving homicide and shooting homicide are dealt with similarly AFTER the fact yet only guns are wanted gone. Cars give the drunkard the ability to kill again. There are thousands of cases of a drunk getting freed only to kill again behind the wheel. There are no cases of a mass shooter doing so. It's a double standard and illogical. On one you want to blame the weapon yet on the other the person. There is no difference, it's the person... always.
Look I get it in Canada. Canada wasn't born from the gun and it isn't woven into the fabric. The gun ship sailed 250 years ago in this country and you simply aren't changing it.
Wehave's problem is that he is so insular he never leaves his own bubble or echo chamber. He never leaves his comfort zone to see that people who disagree with him are not all inbred hillbilly christian gun loving fascists.
Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
WeHave's problem is he says the same stuff over and over thinking those opposed don't get it because that's the only way they could possibly disagree with his megamind so ya, your analogy fits.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
That would require more hard work and commitment...this is why I'd like to see guns harder to obtain
GrandWazoo
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10 dead or 1 does matter a shit ton.
Guns make it way too easy to act on your mental health problems. I’d fucking love to have to deal with a knifing problem instead of a mass shooting one.
I am a Jew! But, I lost a large portion of my family due to not being able to protect ourselves. Wehave will be at my front door the second the zombies come. In Canada, firearms used in violent crimes is less than 3%. As seen in Vancouver's mass deadly killing by a vehicle, it's not a problem in Canada. Especially not by legal owners, and again, there are some crazies that go against that. But would they have killed with a car/knife etc.. as well? Probably so.
Also, let's be clear, you have to have mental issues to kill, regardless of the weapon (a knife/gun/car/bomb etc..). Canada and the US are entirely different, we have strict regulations and rules/courses that you need to pass to maintain and get your license. I already mentioned that violent crime with firearms is a fraction of all crime so Liberal cucks don't understand that nothing will change unless the liberals actually decide to get tough on criminals. We all know they love bail reform and letting repeat offenders out in the name of racial equality though.