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2nd Rnd '25 Playoffs: Leafs vs Panthers - Flo-Rida them onto the ECF - LFG!

MindzEye said:
Quality of life mate, quality of life. Most guys are looking for big markets, nice destinations, etc. I think the west coast would appeal to Mitch, Columbus not so much.
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I dont disagree.

I think Anaheim is my top choice for Mitch, with Chicago ( if he wants that pressure, is there even pressure?) and Utah as close seconds
 
Marner and his 100 regular season points joining the Hawks to help Bedard get to the playoffs, or doing the same for SJ to help Celebrini, makes too much sense.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
As much as it feels like insanity, I don't see how they can let him walk if he wants to stay. They would just need to negotiate the shit out of his deal to get him to sign for a relative song. Let him go for nothing and then what, sign Ehlers and Bennett? How do we even know any other good player wants to step into this?

I also think that letting Marner go will destroy Matthews, and he'll be gone soon after too after putting up bad numbers without Marner and getting all the blame. If they let Marner go, they probably should look into trading Matthews too, and just start over. But we'd get half price for Matthews right now, after all this. Unmitigated disaster, where the only path might be to bring them all fucking back, and we're not going to and will completely fuck the franchise for a decade as we run everybody else out of town.
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Youre not winning with them so who gives a shit if you get rid of them? If you bring them back you're basically telling your fans to skip next season, and that IS insane.
 
axlsalinger said:
I mean as frustrated as we all are right now, how the fuck could you justify taking a team that makes the playoffs every year and just won the division and advocating tanking instead?! It doesn't make any fucking sense.
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It makes perfect sense. All management needs to do is accept the objective reality that this core will never win jack shit together. How many more years of this will it take for MLSE to wake up and smell the failure?

Leafs fans need to come to terms with the fact that this team, as currently constructed, is garbage and needs to be dismantled. But sure, if all you care about are regular season results and don't care about winning Cups, by all means run it back. But sooner or later you're going to have to suffer through a tear down and rebuild. You can do it now or you can kick the can down the road for yet another year. But you ain't winning a damn thing with this bunch.
 
Actually a bit worried about not having our pick next year. This team could easily not be in the playoffs if 1) Matthews is out long term with whatever injury 2) This is the Matthews we get going forward

The other four teams in our division are not likely to get anywhere as weaker as the leafs will be entering next season
 
soco22 said:
No 1st round picks anytime soon…
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It's really, really not hard to take the bones of this, clear the decks of a few of those big contracts and come back better next year. I get that a message of hope is not what anyone really wants to hear right now, which is good, because I don't have one. But as mentioned earlier, just clearing Mitch, JT, and Mo gives us almost 40 millie in cap space this summer.

There are some free agents worth looking at who can be complimentary skill and play better "playoff" hockey than our outgoing forwards (Bennett, Boeser, even Kuzmenko), there are always teams looking to move salary in the summer, maybe Marchand will come and play if we beg him hard enough, etc.

We need an enema and could easily turn over 6-7-8 players off of this team that were mostly passengers when the games got tough. I'm good with that.

Just gotta fire the idiots in the front office first. They can't be making the retooling decisions.
 
soco22 said:
Actually a bit worried about not having our pick next year. This team could easily not be in the playoffs if 1) Matthews is out long term with whatever injury 2) This is the Matthews we get going forward

The other four teams in our division are not likely to get anywhere as weaker as the leafs will be entering next season
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I mean....Matthews was a shell of himself all year, we played a dogshit brand of hockey all year and we would have ~40M to replace outgoing players with. I'm not too worried about this not being a playoff team next year.
 
MindzEye said:
It's really, really not hard to take the bones of this, clear the decks of a few of those big contracts and come back better next year. I get that a message of hope is not what anyone really wants to hear right now, which is good, because I don't have one. But as mentioned earlier, just clearing Mitch, JT, and Mo gives us almost 40 millie in cap space this summer.

There are some free agents worth looking at who can be complimentary skill and play better "playoff" hockey than our outgoing forwards (Bennett, Boeser, even Kuzmenko), there are always teams looking to move salary in the summer, maybe Marchand will come and play if we beg him hard enough, etc.

We need an enema and could easily turn over 6-7-8 players off of this team that were mostly passengers when the games got tough. I'm good with that.

Just gotta fire the idiots in the front office first. They can't be making the retooling decisions.
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Just gotta fire the idiots in the front office first. They can't be making the retooling decisions.

Sb paragraph #1; all else falls into place after that, prob'ly. 😍
 
If we were so inclined, I'm sure we could land Erik Karlsson from the fake nerd if we just took the entire deal. The Kings might not be too far off with Doughty tbh. I'm sure Nashville would listen on Josi, Vegas on AP.

There's a few veteran big money defenders out there who aren't worth the contracts and could be available.
 
MindzEye said:
I mean....Matthews was a shell of himself all year, we played a dogshit brand of hockey all year and we would have ~40M to replace outgoing players with. I'm not too worried about this not being a playoff team next year.
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You really are trusting management to make smart moves…
 
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