Utah sends dman Michael Kesselring and forward Josh Doan to Buffalo. Kesselring had 7 goals, 22 assists and has 1 year at $1.4 million. He’ll be a RFA with arbitration rights next year. Doan had 7 goals, 12 assists in 51 games for Utah and 11 goals, 15 assists in 28 games for AHL Tucson. He has 1 year left on his entry deal.
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cmaleski2
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That seems like a very light return going back to Buffalo for a 23 year old top 6 forward. Michael Kesselring and Josh Doan and...that is it? Not even a 2nd round pick?
Is there value here with Buffalo NOT having to pay JJ Peterka that much money? It's not like Buffalo is hurting for cap space, but they are hurting for top 6 goal scoring talent. Was Peterka asking out of Buffalo and threatening not to sign? Given the return on this trade, it almost has to be the case that Peterka was asking to be traded?
Is there value here with Buffalo NOT having to pay JJ Peterka that much money? It's not like Buffalo is hurting for cap space, but they are hurting for top 6 goal scoring talent. Was Peterka asking out of Buffalo and threatening not to sign? Given the return on this trade, it almost has to be the case that Peterka was asking to be traded?
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CanadaCanes
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I think the money was the key, Peterka's ask apparently was high for Pegula to stomach so I think you nailed it on the value. Kesselring is about to be paid next year if he has another decent year. Doan seems like a bottom six prospect at best with a great family pedigree to carry around with but nothing like the old man in terms of high end talent. Poor old Kevyn Adams cannot seem to do anything right in Buffalo when you hear the moans from the Slugs faithful.
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I think Peterka is a nice young player, but I've been a little confused about why everybody seems to think he's a big deal. He's a purely one way player who got massive minutes the last two years and produced ... OK. He tickled 30 goals but never got there. His numbers are a lot like Jarvis' in the last year of his ELC but with a negative defensive impact. His Net Score is like a plus 4 or 5. Getting two decent young players for one good young player sounds about right to me. Also, if you're Kevyn Adams, at some point you have to draw a line and not let players walk all over you just because you suck. Peterka's ask seemed to be entirely built on "this team sucks and I don't so if you want me to stick around you'll need to pay a premium." Screw that noise.
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cmaleski2
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Ok, so maybe its all of the above then. Buffalo, being the team that actually knows JJ Peterka the best, didn't see him as worth a $7+ million AAV despite his offensive stats and Peterka might have asked to be moved because, Buffalo. $7.4 million AAV also would put him above Tage Thompson. Things like that are going to start to happen with a rapidly increasing cap, but the optics wouldn't be great.
Still strange to me though...I would have expected Buffalo to as least wrangle out a draft pick as well right before the draft.
I definitely wouldn't want the Canes to pay JJ Peterka $7.7 million AAV for 5 seasons. Did Peterka's agent convince Utah that Seth Jarvis' AAV was a good comparable, but they needed to go higher to sign Peterka? Obviously Jarvis >>>>>> Peterka.
Still strange to me though...I would have expected Buffalo to as least wrangle out a draft pick as well right before the draft.
I definitely wouldn't want the Canes to pay JJ Peterka $7.7 million AAV for 5 seasons. Did Peterka's agent convince Utah that Seth Jarvis' AAV was a good comparable, but they needed to go higher to sign Peterka? Obviously Jarvis >>>>>> Peterka.
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A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for the CBA extension could be announced as early as tomorrow. It’s a 4 year extension that would start on September 16, 2026 and expire September 15, 2030. There are some significant updates.
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- The regular season will increase to 84 games beginning in 2026-27. The preseason will be shortened to 4 games and players with more than 100 games played can play a max of 2 preseason games.
- Contract length will be shortened by 1 year, so 7 years for re-signing current players and 6 for all others. This will be the last year of 8 year contracts.
- A playoff salary cap mechanism.
- Uniform draft rights expiry, regardless of where the player is drafted from. Draft rights will expire at age 22 (Russia too?).
- Deferred salary contracts will be banned.
- The revenue split will remain at 50/50 but the salary cap won’t change beyond the previously announced targets of $104 million next year and $113 million in 2027-28. I guess the 2 extra regular season games won’t increase HRR?
Sources: NHL, NHLPA preparing to announce new CBA framework on Friday
The extension would run from 2026-2030. It includes 84-game seasons, closing the LTIR loophole and more.
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bagopux
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I don’t mind the 84 games if there are 2 fewer preseason. Not saying I like it though. I’d prefer somewhere around 72 games and ending the playoffs around Memorial Day but we’ll never see that. All the other stuff looks remarkably reasonable.A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) for the CBA extension could be announced as early as tomorrow. It’s a 4 year extension that would start on September 16, 2026 and expire September 15, 2030. There are some significant updates.
- The regular season will increase to 84 games beginning in 2026-27. The preseason will be shortened to 4 games and players with more than 100 games played can play a max of 2 preseason games.
- Contract length will be shortened by 1 year, so 7 years for re-signing current players and 6 for all others. This will be the last year of 8 year contracts.
- A playoff salary cap mechanism.
- Uniform draft rights expiry, regardless of where the player is drafted from. Draft rights will expire at age 22 (Russia too?).
- Deferred salary contracts will be banned.
- The revenue split will remain at 50/50 but the salary cap won’t change beyond the previously announced targets of $104 million next year and $113 million in 2027-28. I guess the 2 extra regular season games won’t increase HRR?
Sources: NHL, NHLPA preparing to announce new CBA framework on Friday
The extension would run from 2026-2030. It includes 84-game seasons, closing the LTIR loophole and more.
Another thing to consider. I think Buffalo is desperate in the near term to keep Thompson happy and paying a guy who doesn't even try to be defensively responsible more money than him on the back of two 60-something point seasons could well be a tipping point. The last thing they want is their best player demanding a trade ... again.
And if Peterka's Net Score was more in the +8-9 range with room to grow, yeah. I could see the ask. But it's not even close to that. He's barely good value as a Top 6 winger at around $5 million. Maybe you could fluff that by around a million because of the Cap increase, but $7.7 million is a bad price point for him.
Dallas signed Jamie Benn to a +35 contract ... one year with a $1 million base and $3 million in incentives. Honestly, this would have been a good time to move away from him. His numbers declined sharply and he was a liability in the playoffs this season, but he's their Captain and did have a decent year in 23-24 so ...
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Report: Stars sign Benn to 1-year extension
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CanadaCanes
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Jim Nill simply needs to find only 3 more NHL forwards willing to sign and play for $333K each now!!! 
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cmaleski2
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I sure hope so! The question I have is will this be grandfathered in just for players drafted after the new rules take effect? (I would expect so). Free Nikita Guslistov!!!!
Removing 2 pre-season games and adding 2 regular season games is mostly a wash, especially in regards to full season ticket plans. For me this will reduce the number of pre-season games I exchange from 2 to 1, assuming they continue to offer up one preseason game for 'free/donation'. But our plan costs won't change, it's still 43 games to be purchased, instead of 41 regular season and 2 preseason it's going to be 42 regular season and 1 preseason.
I can’t imagine anything being retroactive. The uniform rights expiry is primarily to address the new world where players can leave the CHL for NCAA. But Russia is the outlier.
On the tickets, it will affect the walk up gate and maybe a small difference between a preseason game and a “premium” game. My ticket price for the Panthers preseason game last year was $37.50 but the regular season game after Thanksgiving was $62.21.
I think I read that across the league, the average ticket price for a preseason game was roughly half of the price of a regular season game, so that tracks. Swapping in 2 full price games would yield a decent chunk of change without really changing the expense side ... seeing as how teams have to staff pre season games roughly the same a regular season game. It's a cheap and easy way to raise ticket revenues by a million bucks and change, depending on the average ticket pricing in a market.
I'd prefer to see them drop a couple of games, especially in an Olympic year, to reduce the logjam of back to back sludge. But we know how that would go over in a Governors' meeting.
Jackets trade pending RFA goalie Daniil Tarasov to Florida for a 2025 5th round pick. The Panthers had Vitek Vanacek as Bob’s backup and had Cooper Black and Kaapo Kahkonen in Charlotte. Vanacek and Kahkonen are both UFAs, Black was an undrafted free agent from Dartmouth and going into the 2nd year of his entry deal. He played 16 games for the Checkers and 7 for ECHL Savannah.
A year after Habs coach Martin St. Louis retired, he created an investment firm with former Hurricane Jeff Hamilton and Keith McCullough. Their firm, Seven7 is taking a minority stake in hockey equipment manufacturer CCM. Norwegian private equity fund Altor took a majority stake in CCM last October from another PE firm.
Florida kind of got stuck with Vanacek as their backup after they decided to trade Spencer Knight away near the deadline, and he was pretty awful in limited appearances. Knight, once again, was marginally better than Bob but obviously lacks Bob's big game experience. Vanacek was a good third option but not as the primary backup. Not sure Tarasov is going to be that guy either. His career save percentage is right at league average for the 24-25 season but he's never been what you'd call good. Wouldn't shock me if Florida tries to get another backup and sticks with Tarasov as a 3rd wheel guy. That's about his career water mark. You'd figure Florida will want a backup who can manage 30 or more NHL starts and that sure doesn't sound like Daniil Tarasov. It sounds like Jake Allen, if he wasn't pretty much the best goalie in the free agent market.
HeyKurtz
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On the pending new CBA, while the change in the number of preseason and regular season games, the implementation of a playoff salary cap, etc. are all worthwhile discussion points, I'm just excited about the idea that labor peace should be secured through the end of the decade. The NHL and NHLPA have made huge strides in this area and this a significant accomplishment for which I don't think either side gets enough credit.
Bill Zito was in the Jackets front office when they drafted Tarasov in 2017.
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cmaleski2
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What I remember about Tarasov is the game he started against us on New Years Day (2022). He looked absolutely elite in that game but got hurt and had to come out after 2 periods. That is the game we fell behind 4-0 but came storming back with 7 unanswered goals in the games final 31 minutes.
Anyhow, Tarasov made 31 saves on 33 shots in just 2 periods that day and looked like a superstar in doing so. He had me convinced that he was a #1 goalie in waiting that day. Things haven't quite turned out that way but he was also playing for Columbus. It wouldn't shock me at all if Tarasov puts up great numbers as Bob's backup and ends up getting signed by a team next offseason convinced that Tarasov is a 1B (very similar to how things worked out for Stolarz). Unless of course Florida signs him for more than one season....
Anyhow, Tarasov made 31 saves on 33 shots in just 2 periods that day and looked like a superstar in doing so. He had me convinced that he was a #1 goalie in waiting that day. Things haven't quite turned out that way but he was also playing for Columbus. It wouldn't shock me at all if Tarasov puts up great numbers as Bob's backup and ends up getting signed by a team next offseason convinced that Tarasov is a 1B (very similar to how things worked out for Stolarz). Unless of course Florida signs him for more than one season....