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2024-25 NHL Misc. Thread

ThinIce said:
I take no pleasure in a player's NHL shortcomings, but the selection of those two Zac(h)s is a time that epitomized the Canes draft futility.
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I remember there were a lot of people pissed when Dalpe’s name came up as a draft possibility, supposedly floated as a first rounder. Boychuk was drafted about where Central Scouting had him slotted. Beyond his twitter presence, he’s still playing, spending the last 5 seasons with the Berlin Polar Bears of the German League and winning 4 league titles.

That draft also brought Michal Jordan, Mike Murphy and Samuel Moreau. Murphy played 2 games, Moreau was never signed. At least Jordan indirectly led to RBA being hired as head coach, so that draft wasn’t a total loss.
 
andyt said:
That draft also brought Michal Jordan, Mike Murphy and Samuel Moreau. Murphy played 2 games, Moreau was never signed. At least Jordan indirectly led to RBA being hired as head coach, so that draft wasn’t a total loss.
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To get RBA required us going through that arrogant Bill Peters and his kicking the hell out of Michal Jordan in the back.

It confounds me how Bill Peters and Mike Babcock were arrogant and bullying and no longer get mentioned as coaching options. Yet, Joel Quenneville “has learned a lesson” but was willfully complicit in destroying another man’s life, well being and career.
 
Buffalo electing arbitration with Byrum is an interesting move. That ends offer sheet possibilities, but now Byrum and his agent get to choose whether or not they want to take a 1 or 2 year deal. 1 year means Byrum is still an RFA with arbitration rights 1 season away from free agency. 2 years brings Byrum to UFA status.

I know that Buffalo was concerned that if a team tendered an offer sheet and they matched, that would prevent them from being able to trade Byrum until July 2026. But this path is also fraught with potential undesirable outcomes as well as Buffalo just ceded contract length control completely to Byrum and his agent.

Messy!
 
andyt said:
Our favorite AHL hack is at it again. Jamieson Rees signed a 1 year AHL contract with the Belleville Senators. According to the hack, the Canes destroyed his development. Not Don Levin’s desire to recreate the IHL. The Canes. I swear he’s on Levin’s secret payroll.


View: https://x.com/tonyandrock/status/1942241812745519454?s=46&t=8056gLL6Pl3wbApF5otK6g
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Doesn't Levin have a child or two involved in the Wolves? And are we certain this isn't one of them posting under a nom de dumbass?
 
andyt said:
I remember there were a lot of people pissed when Dalpe’s name came up as a draft possibility, supposedly floated as a first rounder. Boychuk was drafted about where Central Scouting had him slotted. Beyond his twitter presence, he’s still playing, spending the last 5 seasons with the Berlin Polar Bears of the German League and winning 4 league titles.

That draft also brought Michal Jordan, Mike Murphy and Samuel Moreau. Murphy played 2 games, Moreau was never signed. At least Jordan indirectly led to RBA being hired as head coach, so that draft wasn’t a total loss.
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2008 was a weird draft pool and most teams took the L on their draft classes. Hard to hang an entire era's futility on that draft, but that was a time when Carolina was running a very small, very cheap scouting operation and basically making draft decisions by the seat of Jimmy Rutherford's pants. So yeah. When Captain Cautious Ron Francis takes over the draft in about 4-5 years and makes you more bold, you know you had issues.
 
Utah and Jack McBain agreed on a 5 year, $4.25 million AAV contract. So Byram is the only player left on club-elected arbitration.
 
andyt said:
Our favorite AHL hack is at it again. Jamieson Rees signed a 1 year AHL contract with the Belleville Senators. According to the hack, the Canes destroyed his development. Not Don Levin’s desire to recreate the IHL. The Canes. I swear he’s on Levin’s secret payroll.


View: https://x.com/tonyandrock/status/1942241812745519454?s=46&t=8056gLL6Pl3wbApF5otK6g
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Rees never even had a spectacular OHL career, his frequent run-ins with the league over some questionable suspendible offenses was his own doing. He’s probably fortunate to even find AHL work…
 
andyt said:
Utah and Jack McBain agreed on a 5 year, $4.25 million AAV contract. So Byram is the only player left on club-elected arbitration.
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Does that AAV seem bonkers to anyone else? McBain is a 20-something point bottom six guy with zero upside.
 
SlapShots said:
Teams don’t succeed without guys like Chatfield in their line up. We are SO much better when he’s playing!
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Chatfield has put in the work to become a great top 4 D-Man...I can remember watching him play that one season for Vancouver and he was getting taken to the woodshed on so many plays in his own zone that season, looked nothing like the player he is now. Canes surely missed him badly vs Florida.
 
Well, great is pushing it but Chatfield is absolutely a plus player in this system. I'm not all that surprised that he struggled in a zone trap-based system though. The attributes he has that are anything above average are his speed and general mobility. He's an OK passer, has a decent shot and makes pretty good decisions, but his wheels are his bread and butter. And there's no defensive system that allows a guy with good wheels to shine quite like a straight, switching man to man. It's also why Ghost is less of a liability in his own end for the Canes than he has been for other teams.

And the acid test, sadly, was when he missed time in the playoffs. Not so much that his replacements were green and unprepared, but his usage was just impossible to replace. Walker is a competent, speedy RD, but that pair took a big hit without Chatfield and Orlov just couldn't handle the extra weight. I hate to compare anybody to Slavin, but Chatfield was absolutely the one keeping that pairing together, like Slavin does for his pairings.
 
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