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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

zeke said:


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I don't believe anything reported by Larry Brooks, so I don't think that bit of speculation is worth much.

More interesting is that Kane recently hired Milstein. Dubas seems to have a pretty good relationship with him.
 
hockeylover said:
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I would congratulate the Hab fans around here, if not for the fact that Geoff Molson will be picking his replacement.

Pretty weird how this all played out though. Seemed like a multi-year extension was on the table for him last season, and he wouldn't sign it. Then his assistant GM quits out of the blue, and he gets fired shortly after.
 
Us losing to the Habs did end up anchoring them to a shit coach, giving up 1st rounders for Dvorak, losing Kotka and adding a couple more shit contracts......but damn I really wanted it to get Bergy a nice long extension too.

Dammit. So close.
 
Volcanologist said:
not saying moneyphone is a good idea bigger picture but I don't know where else they're getting a 30 goal winger for 3.5 million or whatever it would be after retention?
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That's my question.

We probably need another real offensively skilled forward, and I'm down for targeting someone else at the deadline. But we're not going to get someone good with cheap term left for less than one of our young defenders, and if we're targeting a rental, we're talking about giving up a 1st for a guy like who? Rakell? More for Giroux if Philly decides to move him. Other assets for lesser guys likely to be available who might not even be upgrades on Kerfoot/Bunting?

Yeah there's some risk, but the reward is a 30 goal scorer who plays the way we get accused of not being able to play in the playoffs. There's nothing about him on the ice that is deficient. He's good defensively, physical, talented.

Complete bell end, no argument. Completely understand if we pass on him for that reason alone. Not sure if that's the right play though. If our room is that fragile that one guy with some gambling and douchebaggery issues can ruin it, we're not winning shit anyway.
 



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Preston said:
Is there any actual indication that the sharks would absorb 50%?
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I guess all it takes is one team that's willing to eat more or all of the contract.

But I'm sure any GM with any interest in Kane can smell the Sharks' desperation here. So that's why I'd assume they'll retain 50%.
 
Preston said:
Kane's done it with 3 teams now tho
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Eh, I've read the stories about Winnipeg and Buffalo. I don't want to run cover fire for the dude, he seems to have enough vices where it can all be legit. But when it's all the racist code words we keep hearing about him from his team mates "Selfish, cocky, arrogant", in a league with obvious and deep problems in it's own culture....I wonder how much of the shit is him, and how much is him being...not being the typical small town hockey player.
 
MindzEye said:
Eh, I've read the stories about Winnipeg and Buffalo. I don't want to run cover fire for the dude, he seems to have enough vices where it can all be legit. But when it's all the racist code words we keep hearing about him from his team mates "Selfish, cocky, arrogant", in a league with obvious and deep problems in it's own culture....I wonder how much of the shit is him, and how much is him being...not being the typical small town hockey player.
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That's fair but the Byfuglien incident sorta sealed it for me personally that he's trash. We don't see it hear that shit with Simmonds and some others.

He's a shit and I completely get that he may be a smart addition. He's kinda the player I wanted them to target instead of Ritchie when they used up their last money on the Mimsinator. But I just don't think dubas is up for it.
 
And I was wrong btw. Signing Ritchie was brilliant and brought a much needed comedic element to watching this team shit on the rest of the league. That gets stale after a while. Watching Mims attempt to play hockey does not.
 
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Preston said:
That's fair but the Byfuglien incident sorta sealed it for me personally that he's trash. We don't see it hear that shit with Simmonds and some others.

He's a shit and I completely get that he may be a smart addition. He's kinda the player I wanted them to target instead of Ritchie when they used up their last money on the Mimsinator. But I just don't think dubas is up for it.
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Wasn't the Buff incident basically Kane wearing a track suit to the game and Buff throwing it in the shower?

I've really tried over the years to read as much dirt as is publicly available on Kane as possible because I keep looking for him acting like something more than a 20 something NBA player and I just can't find it. I keep seeing the same code words over and over whenever he has issues with someone in a dressing room.

In December, Scheifele was delivering straight-faced hockey talk until the “#pushups” photo came up. “He got a little ribbing for it,” Scheifele said, grinning. Thorburn brought up the time Kane “carved” the acronym for “Young Money Cash Money Billionaires,” into his hair. (Thorburn thought it said “YMCA” at first.) And the guys in the room had recently given Kane a new nickname: “Cocktails,” the origins of which Kane called a “long, long story.” Thorburn got into it: “We’ll say, ‘Let’s go for drinks or for a beer,’ and he’ll always use the term ‘cocktails.’ ‘Let’s go out for a cocktail.’ And it’s just like”—Thorburn paused to laugh—“you only hear that in movies, you know? He’s trying to be fancy and play along with his persona. We shut that down pretty quickly.”
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He's different, in a hockey dressing room. We all know how quickly that shit gets stupid for the wrong reasons. Dougie fucking Hamilton didn't get along with the dressing room in Calgary because he would rather go and do cultural shit than drink at a fucking moxies.

Now, he absolutely compounds how this all looks with his obviously poor decision making with the gambling, the instagram baby mama, etc. But I have a weird feeling that if he was a 6'2 PG in the NBA instead of a 6'2 winger in the NHL, he would just be one of the guys.

I guess I just struggle with it all because on one hand, I know how stupid and toxic hockey culture is. We see evidence of that coming out on the regular these days. I know how ignorant and small minded small town culture is from my own personal experiences. So when we see black kids enter the league and not conform, they're immediately "problems". Maybe Kane is different and is actually a problem. Dunno. But we sure treat his gambling addiction different than we treat Carey's drug addiction.
 
It's the Balotelli "why always me?" effect. Drama follows him everywhere he goes. Maybe that's pure racism and nothing else but I think there's something to it personally.
 
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