axlsalinger
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no and noIn relation to other suspensions that we see currently? No, definitely not. But that SHOULD be 8-10 games.
(p.s. i am not arguing he should not receive a suspension)
no and noIn relation to other suspensions that we see currently? No, definitely not. But that SHOULD be 8-10 games.
So... if you were to be in charge of the disciplinary process and could throw out all precedents and start from scratch... what would you set the baseline for an intentional crosscheck to the face that causes injury at?no and no
(p.s. i am not arguing he should not receive a suspension)
it is very hard to say, they have been too lenient in certain cases. It could be argued that the Matthews cross-check was worse than this one, more extension and speed and to the throat. Certainly not that much different, and people here argued in that case that Matthews should receive a hand job and a handwritten apology from Rasmus Dahlin as punishment. If this is 8-10, what is that one, 10-12?So... if you were to be in charge of the disciplinary process and could throw out all precedents and start from scratch... what would you set the baseline for an intentional crosscheck to the face that causes injury at?
It could be argued that the Matthews cross-check was worse than this one
Auston is a Leaf, so of course he couldn't possibly do anything wrong. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize unreservedly to Auston and the entire Matthews family.lol wut...
George, is that you?
Auston is a Leaf, so of course he couldn't possibly do anything wrong. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize unreservedly to Auston and the entire Matthews family.
This was worse than AM's imo. This was 100% intentional. At least Matthews could argue that he was intending to hit the shoulder. I'd give Malkin 8 and AM 5 if I was doling it out.it is very hard to say, they have been too lenient in certain cases. It could be argued that the Matthews cross-check was worse than this one, more extension and speed and to the throat. Certainly not that much different, and people here argued in that case that Matthews should receive a hand job and a handwritten apology from Rasmus Dahlin as punishment. If this is 8-10, what is that one, 10-12?
We don't know what was said or the actions that lead up to this incident either, which are factors as is being a repeat offender. I say 4 games.
Please stay safe untangling yourself from this pretzel logic. People do get suspended for crosschecking, I posted several examples.That's a lovely strawman you're building sir, does it do tricks?
The general sentiment at the time was that 1) What Auston did should be a suspension ...but...2) There was an assload (11 incidents, if memory serves) of precedent between the last cross check suspension and Auston's that were worse than Auston's, that came away with fines or no supplementary discipline.
So it's not that we didn't feel Auston's was worthy of a suspension in a vacuum (in fact, we generally argue that DoPS is far, far too light in their reactions and don't protect players...other than from Toronto Maple Leafs...they're well protected from us), it's that if recent precedent held, there shouldn't be a suspension. I still hold that opinion.
Folks. The NHL is perfect and should never be criticized for anything ever.
Please stay safe untangling yourself from this pretzel logic. People do get suspended for crosschecking, I posted several examples.
No one is saying the NHL is perfect
The NHL's supplemental discipline system is an inconsistent, hypocritical mess; marred by politics and accusations of bias, while failing to deter subsequent acts of violence by players or teams after their punishments are doled out. But other than that, it's quite effective.
Folks. The NHL is perfect and should never be criticized for anything ever.
The big issue was that it was half assed. I like axl too much to go too hard. Plus contrarians are welcome on a forum where everyone always agrees with eachother!your hockey trolling is weak...stick to health and finance
But you're supposed to be the contrarian, not me!The big issue was that it was half assed. I like axl too much to go too hard. Plus contrarians are welcome on a forum where everyone always agrees with eachother!
The big issue was that it was half assed. I like axl too much to go too hard. Plus contrarians are welcome on a forum where everyone always agrees with eachother!