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Around the League 2019-2024 Edition

Stars have some of their young core struggling. Robertson has really dropped in production last couple of years. Johnstone is looking very mediocre this year.
 
LeafGm said:
It seems to be exceedingly rare for an elite player to be any good at all at coaching hockey. Larry Robinson is really the only one I can think of.

Maybe part of that is that the stars make more money and thus don’t have the same financial need for continued employment in hockey as the plugs or minor-pro guys who never played in the league.

But I dunno. It also fits with my own personal experience with teachers, where the more naturally brilliant one of them was in a given topic, the shittier they were at teaching others to do it.
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Elite players have difficulty teaching what they know because even they don't quite know HOW they do it. They were simply born with it. Gretzky did the hard work, but he had natural gifts that his peers did not have. So his "normal" was everyone else's "off the charts elite". So how is a guy like that supposed to teach average Joe's how to be as good?

The best coaches are inevitably the ones who were not elite players and had to do everything by the numbers. Guys like that can teach others because they are technicians, tradesman, if you will, while guys like Gretzky are improvisational artists who, after doing out 5 guys before depositing the puck just under the crossbar, couldn't tell you the first thing about "how" they did what they just did or what their thought process was. They simply "did it".
 
MindzEye said:
Because men have an established track record of being just too fucking good at it to expect women to ever reach the standard of a Craig Hughson, Craig Simpson, Greg Millen, Galley, etc, etc, etc.
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Id rather watch a game with Cassie Campbell as color analyst than fucking Gary Galley or Kelly Hrudey.
 
Habsy said:
You won't stop with this bullshit will you.

He's on place for 55 points after a slow start. Last year he had 62 points without a slow start.

You just won't look shit up will you.
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let it go with your BS , you disagree fine no need for this crap response
 
zeke said:
That footage is so clean. Really annoying how low grade most of the 90s footage on youtube is.
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It's from the Canadian cult classic "Face Off" about a fictional character who gets drafted by the Leafs and is ordered to goon it up by his coach. For the action sequences, they interspersed actual game footage from actual Leafs games taken by a film cameraman at ice level. Some NHL stars of the day (Derek Sanderson, George Armstrong) actually have small speaking parts playing themselves.


View: https://youtu.be/u8owuNKDpb4?si=m7at_GP781r5OECD
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Elite players have difficulty teaching what they know because even they don't quite know HOW they do it. They were simply born with it. Gretzky did the hard work, but he had natural gifts that his peers did not have. So his "normal" was everyone else's "off the charts elite". So how is a guy like that supposed to teach average Joe's how to be as good?

The best coaches are inevitably the ones who were not elite players and had to do everything by the numbers. Guys like that can teach others because they are technicians, tradesman, if you will, while guys like Gretzky are improvisational artists who, after doing out 5 guys before depositing the puck just under the crossbar, couldn't tell you the first thing about "how" they did what they just did or what their thought process was. They simply "did it".
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For an example of this phenomenon, I always hearken back to my high school math class.

My regular teacher was a brilliant mathematician, but the idea that someone could watch her do problems on the blackboard at supersonic speed, do the homework she assigned and NOT intuitively understand the material without any further explanation was completely foreign to her. And being a dummy at math, I didn’t learn a goddamn thing that entire semester.

Except for the one single day that she was off sick, and our dummy, schlubby gym teacher who came to school in sweatpants every day filled in for her, and actually approached the lessons from the perspective or a normal person that had to learn how to do them. I learned more that single day than I learned the rest of the year.
 
Habsy said:
Crap in crap out. Matheson is at the same level so stop with the crap. Cheers.
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Matheson spent all of last night matched up against the greatest player in the world and went +3.

He's not perfect but he'sunderrated...like so many offensive d-men who are sometimes on the wrong end of their risk taking.
 
I've always thought Gretz has that Trumpian kind of luck in his life. Everything just always goes his way.

Because of that, I've suspected that at some point, Ovy will get run over by a bus or something when he's a goal shy of the record, final destination style.

But he deserves to break the record. He's been amazing for so long, without many of the advantages that Gretz had. Plus, Lemieux probably would've broken a bunch of these records if he'd had health on his side. Gretz should be passed.
 
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