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Canes Name Bill Peters as New Head Coach

jeffbear said:
So you've got a hard nosed, no BS head coach, Rod Freaking Brind-Amour and Steve Smith. That's a pretty hard core coaching staff. We'll just have to see how it goes, but if I was one of these powder puff Canes I wouldn't want to be lipping back at any of these guys.
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lol - this
 
jeffbear said:
Look ... the Oilers' problems have been roster related more than anything else. They spent all their money up front and never really gave their staff much to work with on D. Sound familiar?

Smith is fine. He was a smart, tough player who showed up every night ready to put in his work. EXACTLY the kind of thing we've been missing around here. So you've got a hard nosed, no BS head coach, Rod Freaking Brind-Amour and Steve Smith. That's a pretty hard core coaching staff. We'll just have to see how it goes, but if I was one of these powder puff Canes I wouldn't want to be lipping back at any of these guys.
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Who wants to start the pool on when Eric Staal starts pouting? I think he is close after seeing the coaching staff. I am really interested to see how he reacts this year to all the changes. Honestly, the best thing for the Canes is its a contract year. He has to play well to get paid in future even if he ends up hating it here.
 
CarolinaPen said:
Who wants to start the pool on when Eric Staal starts pouting? I think he is close after seeing the coaching staff. I am really interested to see how he reacts this year to all the changes. Honestly, the best thing for the Canes is its a contract year. He has to play well to get paid in future even if he ends up hating it here.
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From listening to Forslund on the radio yesterday, I think the law has been laid down on E Staal. If his bottom lip starts sticking out, I think his icetime will be reduced and if it continues after that he'll be moved as soon as practicable. Seriously. Ronnie seems to have a firm grasp on just how deeply Eric's refusal to submit to Muller banjaxed this team over the last two seasons. I get the sense that there is zero tolerance with Staal pulling any diva acts at this point. He might have been JR's golden child, but I don't think Ronnie is impressed.
 
jeffbear said:
From listening to Forslund on the radio yesterday, I think the law has been laid down on E Staal. If his bottom lip starts sticking out, I think his icetime will be reduced and if it continues after that he'll be moved as soon as practicable. Seriously. Ronnie seems to have a firm grasp on just how deeply Eric's refusal to submit to Muller banjaxed this team over the last two seasons. I get the sense that there is zero tolerance with Staal pulling any diva acts at this point. He might have been JR's golden child, but I don't think Ronnie is impressed.
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Yeah, Francis certainly has not held back on his thoughts of what #12 needs to do next season to improve his game...the bigger question will be, will it be a short term sell job by Eric that crumbles under the first adversity he faces or a long term effort to play that 200 foot game he needs to play to be better?
 
CanadaCanes said:
Yeah, Francis certainly has not held back on his thoughts of what #12 needs to do next season to improve his game...the bigger question will be, will it be a short term sell job by Eric that crumbles under the first adversity he faces or a long term effort to play that 200 foot game he needs to play to be better?
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I won't pretend to know how we'll respond, but we've seen Eric Staal play an effective 200 foot game before. He seems to fade away from it over time, but for fairly long stretches he's been capable of doing what's required from him. I suspect we'll see some good results from him next fall, but for me the real issue will be how long it lasts.
 
I'm hoping for a Hurricanes team that doesn't waste the first few months of the season trying to figure itself out, or being forced to play from a goal or better behind after the end of first period all the time. Fixing the 'Canes broken powerplay would be downright monumental. No telling how many PPs got pi$$ed away that could have affected the season's standings or earned the Hurricanes that elusive slot in the playoffs.

It was definitely time that the deck got shuffled. Having JR's hands out of the pie and a safe distance away from Edwards Mill is a great thing. RF at the helm, eager to prove himself by hiring a tough, no B.S. coach ought to help turn things around. I want to believe the former country club days of half-assed effort, pouting, and sulking if things don't go your way are over. I hope the new coaching staff clicks and helps prove what this team is capable of.
 
It's gonna be very difficult to get away from a system that pokes at the puck as the skater skates by and a style that encompasses a lot of standing around waiting for passes plus getting rid of the years of dump and change.
I suspect the new system will require putting the body in harms way, actual skating to loose pucks both in the corner and open ice, going through checks instead dumping and changing or dumping and turning back, the ability to execute a stick to stick pass from both the forehand and backhand, being able to catch the same pass forehand and backhand, skating fast down the ice, skating like a hockey player - knees bent, lower center of gravity and feet moving - instead of like a figure skater - standing tall and gliding - shots that hit the net, etc.

That's a lot of undoing that has to be done in short time during training camp.

Coach Peters, if your reading this, or any other canes official, remember, the game is won on the ice, not the gym. You need to skate them twice a day, once in the morning and again early evening. The first is for basics like positioning, passing, stick handling, shooting, etc. The second is for power skating. I suggest doing the power skating one at night as that is when most games are played and bed will give them time to relax the burning muscles. Plus, who wants to spend the day after tossing their cookies a couple times? They can sleep that off also.
 
If Peters is going to install the Wings' systems here (which is an assumption), the it's the wingers who will have the most adjusting to do. They bring their wings all the way back to the defensive goal line in terms of responsibility for loose pucks in the D zone. It takes a TON of pressure off of the defensemen, and puts it on the more mobile wingers. But it means that guys like Skinner who are used to being able to float around near the defensive blueline looking for jail break passes will have to completely change their mindsets.

It'll be a challenge to be sure, but that's what training camps are for.

Now, there's no guarantee that Peters will go with that Bowman/Babcock system. If not I'm not sure what to expect from him in terms of systems. I'll just wait and see what we see in exhibitions.
 
Windy and JB - I salute you! Great comments that get to the heart of problem with this team. A big concern in implementing what you suggest is how will Skinner perform? He's at his most dangerous when he floats around the net, but he's less effective defensively. I'm hoping Peters can design his system to match our talent, while still enforcing the good habits that are essential for champions. We'll see....
 
ThinIce said:
Windy and JB - I salute you! Great comments that get to the heart of problem with this team. A big concern in implementing what you suggest is how will Skinner perform? He's at his most dangerous when he floats around the net, but he's less effective defensively. I'm hoping Peters can design his system to match our talent, while still enforcing the good habits that are essential for champions. We'll see....
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I don't see Skinner as a particular problem if they go with the Wings' systems. All you'd be asking him to do is come down into the defensive corners to help the D get the puck out of their end. It's actually probably less technical than asking him to man mark a point man. It's an effort thing ... the Wings forwards have to skate a lot more and cover more ground than guys in other systems. It's not the biggest deal in the world, it's just a different set of responsibilities. And it's not like the Wings haven't had offensive wings thrive in their systems over the years.
 
There is another part to the wings system, they act like a school of fish, all in synchronization. They turn and speed up together.
Mo once summed it up as having all 5 skaters on the tv screen all the time.
 
dwind said:
There is another part to the wings system, they act like a school of fish, all in synchronization. They turn and speed up together.
Mo once summed it up as having all 5 skaters on the tv screen all the time.
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True ... but a lot of teams try to do that even in more conventional systems. VERY few do it as well as the Wings. It helps that they've stuck with the same systems through two coaching staffs since Bowman went there 20 years ago, and that they diligently teach the same systems all the way through their minor league system as well. LOTS of organizational discipline in Detroit. I really don't like that franchise but I respect the heck out of what they do.
 
One other advantage of the Wings' system is that you don't need a goaltender to bail you out all that much. In a salary cap world, that means you don't have a boatload of cap space tied up by a perennial Vezina candidate.
 
so our very own Lin just flew in from Holland to visit for a bit. When she switched planes in Philly, she got on with Brind'amour, JR, Karmanos Jr and SCOTTY BOWMAN!!! :D ...... Interesting.
 
jeffbear said:
If Peters is going to install the Wings' systems here (which is an assumption), the it's the wingers who will have the most adjusting to do. They bring their wings all the way back to the defensive goal line in terms of responsibility for loose pucks in the D zone. It takes a TON of pressure off of the defensemen, and puts it on the more mobile wingers. But it means that guys like Skinner who are used to being able to float around near the defensive blueline looking for jail break passes will have to completely change their mindsets.

It'll be a challenge to be sure, but that's what training camps are for.

Now, there's no guarantee that Peters will go with that Bowman/Babcock system. If not I'm not sure what to expect from him in terms of systems. I'll just wait and see what we see in exhibitions.
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I could not help but chuckle a bit when reading the below recent quotes from Mike Babcock. I wonder how a Babcock-trained coach like Bill Peters may follow this same type of coaching style...which will go over like a lead balloon with certain Cane players that will remain unnamed!

"If you don't want to be coached, don't come here," Babcock told listeners (via CBS Sports). "If you want to be pushed to be the best that you can be, that's what we do here. The proof is in the pudding.

"Am I warm and cuddly every day? I am with my family.

"I think I care a lot about my players. When you care about people, you make them do it right. When you don't and there's lots of coaches that don't, then their teams don't do it right and they don't have success.

"We just have the hard meetings. We get it out front. Does it piss people off once in a while? Absolutely. But it also leads to behavioural changes and getting things better. So you know what, I'm not apologizing for that stuff at all."
 
Why should a Canes coach be like that? WLOT.

Seriously... If Peters plays it like Babcock, I can imagine coming to some games this year.
 
Yes, we absolutely need a serious dose of that coaching approach here. Hopefully Peters is bringing that along and is going to be serving that same notice to the players here. Shape up or expect to be gone.
 
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