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Claude Julien is new coach of the Habs

GrandWazoo said:
Or Duchene and Shattenkirk. Shit, even just getting Hanzal would be a decent improvement. Plekanec is useless right now, I can't stand watching him anymore.
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From what I saw yesterday we need an entire second line since I have written off 11 at least for this season . Sure he was hurt but he looks done .
 
GEEMAN said:
From what I saw yesterday we need an entire second line since I have written off 11 at least for this season . Sure he was hurt but he looks done .
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I would start with a new center, there is a good chance it might snowball the rest into place.
 
Some people here are acting like we're in 28th place. We aren't. We are still at the top of our division. You don't blow up a first place team two weeks before the trade deadline. This team is only a couple of pieces from being a serious Cup contender. We need to stop pretending that this is last year.

And I'll tell you something else: there are no perfect teams out there. Every year a team with huge flaws hoists the Cup. The trick isn't in fixing every shortcoming on the roster; it's about finding ways to win in spite of them. That's what defines a championship team: how it deals with adversity. In a salary cap system it's impossible to fill every hole.

When Bergevin traded for Weber he committed this team to a course of action that does not include an immediate full-scale rebuild. His mandate is to win the Cup now or die trying. The only way he's going to have an opportunity to still be around to supervise an eventual rebuild is if he wins a Cup or two in the meantime. Otherwise he's getting canned and he knows it. And this is why I'm not so sure I believe him when he says that he won't sacrifice prospects for immediate help because really, what are these prospects to him? If he doesn't find a way to win now he'll be long gone by the time the Sergachev's, Sherback's and Juulsen's of the world blossom into regular NHLers, assuming they ever do. So I think that if the offer is right anyone is potentially tradeable.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Some people here are acting like we're in 28th place. We aren't. We are still at the top of our division. You don't blow up a first place team two weeks before the trade deadline. This team is only a couple of pieces from being a serious Cup contender. We need to stop pretending that this is last year.

And I'll tell you something else: there are no perfect teams out there. Every year a team with huge flaws hoists the Cup. The trick isn't in fixing every shortcoming on the roster; it's about finding ways to win in spite of them. That's what defines a championship team: how it deals with adversity. In a salary cap system it's impossible to fill every hole.

When Bergevin traded for Weber he committed this team to a course of action that does not include an immediate full-scale rebuild. His mandate is to win the Cup now or die trying. The only way he's going to have an opportunity to still be around to supervise an eventual rebuild is if he wins a Cup or two in the meantime. Otherwise he's getting canned and he knows it. And this is why I'm not so sure I believe him when he says that he won't sacrifice prospects for immediate help because really, what are these prospects to him? If he doesn't find a way to win now he'll be long gone by the time the Sergachev's, Sherback's and Juulsen's of the world blossom into regular NHLers, assuming they ever do. So I think that if the offer is right anyone is potentially tradeable.
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Sure other teams have flaws but not like us . The Hawks can win a defensively responsible Bolland or Handzus as your 2C cause the rest of your top 6 is elite and you have the best damn 1-2 D pairing in the last decade .

The Pens can win with Dumoulin or Daley in your top 4 cause their top 9 is elite and you have a stud in Letang who I can't stand but he was fken awesome last year and had a little Rust and mix of Sheary that are leaching off 2 of the best players in the world and they produced .

Did you watch yesterday's game ? Where did you see an elite top 9 . If that's our second line were fked .

In what league is that top 9 competing for a title or even that top 4 on d that has to rely on slugs .

We are now bitching that 27 isn't a center so now we need 2 top C's since 14 is done and Dano should be a 3 .

I understand your point but even Nero with half a brain has to see magnitude of fixing our flaws .

He has enough financial security that doesn't need to be stupid to save his job to use duct tape to fix this mess .

Our valued forum member LCS put it best , Julien can't fix this this mess , we are CACK .
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Some people here are acting like we're in 28th place. We aren't. We are still at the top of our division. You don't blow up a first place team two weeks before the trade deadline. This team is only a couple of pieces from being a serious Cup contender. We need to stop pretending that this is last year.

And I'll tell you something else: there are no perfect teams out there. Every year a team with huge flaws hoists the Cup. The trick isn't in fixing every shortcoming on the roster; it's about finding ways to win in spite of them. That's what defines a championship team: how it deals with adversity. In a salary cap system it's impossible to fill every hole.

When Bergevin traded for Weber he committed this team to a course of action that does not include an immediate full-scale rebuild. His mandate is to win the Cup now or die trying. The only way he's going to have an opportunity to still be around to supervise an eventual rebuild is if he wins a Cup or two in the meantime. Otherwise he's getting canned and he knows it. And this is why I'm not so sure I believe him when he says that he won't sacrifice prospects for immediate help because really, what are these prospects to him? If he doesn't find a way to win now he'll be long gone by the time the Sergachev's, Sherback's and Juulsen's of the world blossom into regular NHLers, assuming they ever do. So I think that if the offer is right anyone is potentially tradeable.
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I agree with 99% of this... only thing I'd do is take out Sergachev.

Look what Werenski and Provorov have done this year. Sergachev might be better than they are.

It is very possible that Sergachev is a top 4 D as soon as next season. That is why he's the only untouchable.
 
BKerr said:
I agree with 99% of this... only thing I'd do is take out Sergachev.

Look what Werenski and Provorov have done this year. Sergachev might be better than they are.

It is very possible that Sergachev is a top 4 D as soon as next season. That is why he's the only untouchable.
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Top 4 next season? He'll be Weber's partner next season.
 
What happened to James Wisniewski that he's become a minor leaguer?
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Some people here are acting like we're in 28th place. We aren't. We are still at the top of our division. You don't blow up a first place team two weeks before the trade deadline. This team is only a couple of pieces from being a serious Cup contender. We need to stop pretending that this is last year.

And I'll tell you something else: there are no perfect teams out there. Every year a team with huge flaws hoists the Cup. The trick isn't in fixing every shortcoming on the roster; it's about finding ways to win in spite of them. That's what defines a championship team: how it deals with adversity. In a salary cap system it's impossible to fill every hole.

When Bergevin traded for Weber he committed this team to a course of action that does not include an immediate full-scale rebuild. His mandate is to win the Cup now or die trying. The only way he's going to have an opportunity to still be around to supervise an eventual rebuild is if he wins a Cup or two in the meantime. Otherwise he's getting canned and he knows it. And this is why I'm not so sure I believe him when he says that he won't sacrifice prospects for immediate help because really, what are these prospects to him? If he doesn't find a way to win now he'll be long gone by the time the Sergachev's, Sherback's and Juulsen's of the world blossom into regular NHLers, assuming they ever do. So I think that if the offer is right anyone is potentially tradeable.
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This team is full of pathetic failures who will go their entire career without ever touching the cup, which means their careers are pathetic failures.

Don't ever forget that.
 
It may be time to think about splitting Max and radulov for the sake of trying to get another productive line.

Radulov and Max are both catalysts so maybe they can both carry a line.

Lehkonen AG Radulov
Max Danault Gallagher
Byron Pleks Shaw
Flynn Mac Ghetto
 
Sal_Butera said:
Just one top-6 acquisition will create the trickle down effect of putting players in the right roles...
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Acquiring a legit top six winger will definitely do that.

However the issue at center needs to be resolved.

If this coaching/management feels they can trust AG at center we should be ok getting someone like Hanzal.

But if they don't trust AG at center we have serious issues down the middle
 
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