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LeafOfFaith said:
Not sure why people are higher on Percy than Finn.

Seems to me, Finn is ahead of Percy right now and is a much better bet for a spot on the opening night roster.
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It's not exactly a mystery. Finn may be the better prospect going foward, but he's never played a single game of professional hockey.

Percy's a year older, he had a cup of coffee in the AHL two years ago along with a full season and long playoff run this year. Pretty reasonable to assume he's more NHL-ready at this point. And with our depth of pretty decent NHL prospects on defense, there's no need to be rushing Finn.
 
Percy has very limited offensive ability. And he's not known to be a premier shutdown guy either.

Finn has been a leader at every level, has offense to his game, is defensively sound.

I still think there's a good chance he'll surprise and make the roster before Percy does.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Percy has very limited offensive ability. And he's not known to be a premier shutdown guy either.

Finn has been a leader at every level, has offense to his game, is defensively sound.

I still think there's a good chance he'll surprise and make the roster before Percy does.
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Yeah, again, no doubt that Finn's a better prospect. If he blows the doors off at camp, he could grab a spot. But Percy's age and pro experience definitely give him a leg up for this year's camp. It should be fun to see how it plays out at training camp, and I am really looking forward to finally getting to see Finn against some pro competition.

And getting back to Percy, yeah, he's not an offensive dynamo or bruising shut-down guy, but that's fine. From what I've seen of him, he looks like more of a Carl Gunnarsson type of defenseman.
 
I'm not even sure that Finn is that much better of a prospect. Percy has the potential to be a Paul Martin esq top pairing defensive dman that can skate and move the puck. And that is exactly what he was on one of the best teams in the AHL last year as a 20 year old. At the same age Gunnar was a depth dman in Sweden.

Finn is a really intriguing prospect too, but its not like he is Morgan Rielly or anything. I'd say him and Percy are on similar levels, though Finn is probably slightly ahead due to offensive upside. Don't sleep on Percy though.

At the end of the day playing at a higher level defensively makes a guy more NHL ready.
 
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I love Finn, and more than Percy, but he's not like a Rielly or Kadri or Nylander - he could use some time in the AHL I think.
 
Someone want to 'splain me how Percy has zero offensive upside? 29 point pace as a 20 yr old in the AHL isn't exactly disappointing
 
Not saying that Percy is on par with the skills of these examples....but

Duncan Keith (20-AHL) 25 points in 75 games
James Wisniewski (20-AHL) 25 points in 66 games
Brent Burns (20-AHL) 27 points in 73 games
Mark Giordano (20-AHL) 16 points in 66 games
Andrej Sekera (20-AHL) 19 points in 54 games
Ryan McDonagh (21-AHL) 8 points in 38 games

and that's just from the top 20 among NHL defenders last season.
 
People forgot that the AHL has become such a low-scoring league that there are instances of guys averaging 0.5 points per game who are being named to the league's All-Star Game squads now. The leading scorers are barely scrapping even a PPG.

Paradoxically enough, the NHL is the far more offensive league at the moment, so AHL production should be looked at with this dearth of offence in mind.

For a young 20 year-old defender to come in and put up 29 points in his first career 75 AHL regular-season games is impressive, especially considering the low-scoring environment in which he's playing.
 
**** all y'all, the Stuarts were straight up homeys:

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JaysCyYoung said:
People forgot that the AHL has become such a low-scoring league that there are instances of guys averaging 0.5 points per game who are being named to the league's All-Star Game squads now. The leading scorers are barely scrapping even a PPG.

Paradoxically enough, the NHL is the far more offensive league at the moment, so AHL production should be looked at with this dearth of offence in mind.

For a young 20 year-old defender to come in and put up 29 points in his first career 75 AHL regular-season games is impressive, especially considering the low-scoring environment in which he's playing.
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Just to nitpick, he didn't score 29 points - that was his on pace. His total was something like 25.
 
mmm kay, same point total as noted above stating 'on pace'.

Wanted to point it out because listing a bunch of stats with season totals and games played should not really be compared to someone's on pace total
 
You didn't need to point anything out.

Stuart Percy's AHL 82 game pace total is 31.3 points based on the 29 points he has recorded in 76 career AHL regular-season games.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
You didn't need to point anything out.

Stuart Percy's AHL 82 game pace total is 31.3 points based on the 29 points he has recorded in 76 career AHL regular-season games.
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Also, you are now changing it to total games over 3 seasons and doing on pace? I don't get doing on pace for 2 years, let alone for 3 years.
 
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