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trujaysfan said:
Who would we still have under contract for 17-18 that meets that criteria and we would want to expose?
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For that reason, I'm thinking some of our depth players (guys like Corrado, Hunwick, Froese, Laich) are going to get offered short-term extensions that carry them through the 2017-18 season. For the express purpose of having players to expose that meet that criteria, and that they're comfortable losing.
 
My hunch is that RFA under that criteria would count too, so you wouldn't necessarily need to already have them under contract. Guys like Lupul, Gauthier, Holland, etc... could potentially count if they reach the games limits.
 
UWHabs said:
My hunch is that RFA under that criteria would count too, so you wouldn't necessarily need to already have them under contract. Guys like Lupul, Gauthier, Holland, etc... could potentially count if they reach the games limits.
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Gauthier will still be too young/inexperienced to be eligible for the draft in all likelihood, and I don't think Lupul or Holland will play a single game for the Leafs next year.

But you may be right about RFA's who played 40 games for the Leafs satisfying that criteria.
 
Just wanted to check...guys like nylander and marner would not be eligible to be exposed if they were to play next season for us? When does someone become eligible in terms of games played or pro seasons?
 
Some more clarification has come out on the expansion draft rules.

EDIT: To put it a bit more simply than my first write-up of these rules, once you're 20 years old and signed to an NHL contract, any professional league you play in counts towards the two years of "professional experience" that make you eligible for the expansion draft. Whether it's the AHL, ECHL, Sweden, Finland, KHL...whatever.

If you're under 20 and signed to an NHL deal though, you can only gain a year of "professional experience" by playing at least 10 NHL games in one season.

Here's the official write-up for this rule:

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This has actually confused me more.

So if a teenager signs an NHL deal at 18 plays a year in europe and then in his 19 year old year plays 11 games in the NHL does he have 1 or 2 season of experience?

Also Soshnikov and Hyman will only be ending their 2nd year and should remain exempt no?
 
LeafGm said:
If you're under 20, you can only gain a year of professional experience by playing at least 10 games in the NHL. Anything else doesn't count, whether you've signed an entry-level NHL contract or not. So, the player in your example would have one year of NHL experience.

This is why Kasperi Kapanen will be exempt. Because while he's played two years of professional hockey since signing his ELC (one year in Finland, another in the AHL), he was 18 & 19 years old in those two seasons. So, they don't count. And since he only played 9 games in the NHL last year, that doesn't count either.


Nope. At the end of this year, they'll both have played two professional years since turning 20 & signing their ELC's, so they'll have to be protected.
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Then Nylander is exempt. last year was his 19 year old year and he played 22 games (1 season) this year will be his 2nd.

He won't have completed the 2nd year before the draft or am i mistaken in thinking anyone whos 2nd year is this year coming up is exempt? The draft is to take place before the official end of the season aka before 2017 FA period.
 
trujaysfan said:
Then Nylander is exempt. last year was his 19 year old year and he played 22 games (1 season) this year will be his 2nd.

He won't have completed the 2nd year before the draft or am i mistaken in thinking anyone whos 2nd year is this year coming up is exempt? The draft is to take place before the official end of the season aka before 2017 FA period.
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Yeah, ignore the post you quoted---I screwed up in my original interpretation of the rules.

It appears you have to have more than two years of professional experience to be eligible for the draft, so the Leafs will have to expose (or protect) a lot fewer of their prospects than I originally thought. Pretty much it'll just be Bibeau, Sparks, Rychel, Brown, Leivo & Leipsic.
 
LeafGm said:
Yeah, ignore the post you quoted---I screwed up in my original interpretation of the rules.

It appears you have to have more than two years of professional experience to be eligible for the draft, so the Leafs will have to expose (or protect) a lot fewer of their prospects than I originally thought. Pretty much it'll just be Bibeau, Sparks, Rychel, Brown, Leivo & Leipsic.
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That's great. It's how it should be, the expansion draft should hit the leading teams the hardest.
 
Aberdeen said:
That's great. It's how it should be, the expansion draft should hit the leading teams the hardest.
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Yep. The expansion draft should be about giving the expansion teams OK NHL players---not allowing them free reign to raid other teams' prospect cupboards.

So, it looks like the league's gotten it right, for the most part. And with the rules set, it really doesn't look like the Leafs are going to have any hard decisions. The hardest decision might be picking between protecting Carrick & Marincin on D, but there are so few forwards that we need to protect that it might make sense to protect eight skaters instead of 7F/3D.

Now, if the expansion draft was being held tomorrow, this is probably the Leafs' list would look like:

Protected:

Nazem Kadri
James van Riemsdyk
Tyler Bozak
Leo Komarov
Kerby Rychel
Connor Brown
Matt Martin

Morgan Rielly
Jake Gardiner
Connor Carrick

Frederik Andersen

Exposed:

Nathan Horton
Joffrey Lupul
Brooks Laich
Milan Michalek
Colin Greening
Peter Holland
Brendan Leipsic
Josh Leivo

Martin Marincin
Jared Cowen
Stephane Robidas
Roman Polak
Matt Hunwick
Viktor Loov
Frank Corrado
Andrew Campbell

Antoine Bibeau
Garret Sparks
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Honestly, the only thing on that exposed list that I'd be a little bummed to lose would be Martin Marincin. So, considering that, the Leafs don't really have much to lose in this process.
 
Ill have to look tonight but i don't think that would satisfy the 1x4 or 2x70 with a contract for the following year rules.

pretty sure we have to expose 2 forwards and 1 D that have played 40 games in the prior season of 70 combined in the previous 2 who have a contract for the following year.

Might be able to squeeze out Lupul/Leivo and Marincin for that
 
trujaysfan said:
Ill have to look tonight but i don't think that would satisfy the 1x4 or 2x70 with a contract for the following year rules.

pretty sure we have to expose 2 forwards and 1 D that have played 40 games in the prior season of 70 combined in the previous 2 who have a contract for the following year.

Might be able to squeeze out Lupul/Leivo and Marincin for that
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Peter Holland played in 65 games last season, so all they'd need to do is play him in at least five games this coming season and extend a qualifying offer to him after the season, and he'd satisfy one of those two forward spots. Lupul could be another one, but he'd need to play 24 games next year, and I'll be surprised if he gets into a single game with us.

There's other things you could do to get around that rule though. The most obvious one would be exposing Matt Martin. He'll most definitely be playing in at least 40 games this year, barring injury, and he's under contract beyond this year. But whether you'd do that depends on how much of a Mike Babcock darling he becomes. If you didn't want to expose Martin, you could also do something like give Laich a one year contract extension, for the purpose of exposing him and satisfying that requirement. Leivo's another option. If he gets into 40 games this year and then gets a qualifying offer at the end of the year, he'd also fill one of those two slots for you.

On D, Martin Marincin would have us covered. So would Frank Corrado, if he plays in at least 31 games this coming season. If you signed Hunwick or Polak to a one-year contract extension during the season, they'd also have you covered.
 
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