LeafOfFaith
Well-known member
What a call, refs.
GDT #23 - 2024/11/30 - The End of the Beginning
- Thread starter zeke
- Start date
SundinsTooth
Leafs Moderator
GREAT CALL! AWESOME! CLEAN THIS GAME UP!
axlsalinger
Well-known member
trujaysfan
Well-known member
That last tampa goal was a kick? I swear we have had less called a kick.
LeafOfFaith
Well-known member
Would've liked the 4-0 win against Kuch-less TB, but will take it.
Slinger 48
Well-known member
Lol.
Ekman-Larsson gets called for crosschecking and promptly gets crosschecked to the ice with no call.
What a fucking joke.
Good game for the most part.
Oh yeah, good to see Robbie get one.
Ekman-Larsson gets called for crosschecking and promptly gets crosschecked to the ice with no call.
What a fucking joke.
Good game for the most part.
Oh yeah, good to see Robbie get one.
zeke
Well-known member
43.8xgf%
Knies 16:24, 76.1%, +0.40 --- Matthews 15:42, 72.5%, +0.34 --- Nylander 16:48, 48.6%, -0.03
Holmberg 14:18, 46.3%, -0.10 --- Tavares 15:12, 50.4%, +0.02 --- Marner 14:54, 40.4%, -0.25
Robertson 10:36, 25.3%, -0.51 --- Minten 11:30, 23.0%, -0.54 --- Lorentz 9:48, 53.6%, +0.06
Grebenkin 7:24, 0.0%, -0.23 --- Dewar 8:30, 0.0%, -0.20 --- Nylander 7:54, 0.0%, -0.19
Rielly 19:36, 44.1%, -0.19 --- OEL 19:36, 44.3%, -0.19
McCabe 9:54, 68.9%, +0.16 --- Tanev 17:24, 51.0%, +0.02
Benoit 18:00, 39.5%, -0.26 --- Timmins 15:06, 23.0%, -0.38
Bottom 6 not winning over the coach in this one.Knies 16:24, 76.1%, +0.40 --- Matthews 15:42, 72.5%, +0.34 --- Nylander 16:48, 48.6%, -0.03
Holmberg 14:18, 46.3%, -0.10 --- Tavares 15:12, 50.4%, +0.02 --- Marner 14:54, 40.4%, -0.25
Robertson 10:36, 25.3%, -0.51 --- Minten 11:30, 23.0%, -0.54 --- Lorentz 9:48, 53.6%, +0.06
Grebenkin 7:24, 0.0%, -0.23 --- Dewar 8:30, 0.0%, -0.20 --- Nylander 7:54, 0.0%, -0.19
Rielly 19:36, 44.1%, -0.19 --- OEL 19:36, 44.3%, -0.19
McCabe 9:54, 68.9%, +0.16 --- Tanev 17:24, 51.0%, +0.02
Benoit 18:00, 39.5%, -0.26 --- Timmins 15:06, 23.0%, -0.38
Could say the entire season the bottom six hasn’t been good enough. Still don’t get how coach doesn’t split the five guys going well between 3 lines to try and get some of the other guys going. Minten needs help, he can’t lead the third line at this point. We still haven’t seen Robertson play with top 6 guys consistently since last season. Grebenkin would seem like a JT type of guy to have on his wing.
It’s not putting the kids in a position to be successful when you put them on a kids line or with AHLers. I am doubting we see Knies take this enormous step forward this season without being fed top 6 minutes last season.
It’s not putting the kids in a position to be successful when you put them on a kids line or with AHLers. I am doubting we see Knies take this enormous step forward this season without being fed top 6 minutes last season.
zeke
Well-known member
to be honest the "mid 4" after the Big 4 has actually been good overall, with only Domi struggling.
5v5
Knies: 21gms, 13:29 (-1.4dzs%), 52.8xgf% (-0.1rel), 2.02ap/60
McMann: 21gms, 12:31 (+1.5dzs%), 48.3xgf% (-2.4rel), 1.60ap/60
Domi: 19gms, 12:29 (-0.3dzs%), 46.9xgf% (-4.2rel), 1.15ap/60
Pacioretty: 13gms, 10:34 (-1.1dzs%), 59.4xgf% (+0.0rel), 2.19ap/60
So Domi not getting it done, though a lot of that might just be him not being able to hack it at C. I'm guessing Domi gets back on track soon enough tho.
Patches was always one of the candidates to win one of these depth roles and he did it easily with some excellent play, which was also helped by his competition sucking balls (i.e. holmberg/robertson).
Now the bottom 5 hasn't been as good, but a lot of that is coach being addicted to the shittiest 4th line he can make with this roster. Hoepfullyt he leafs' play without Kampf and Reaves has helped with his withdrawal pains and sobered him up a bit.
If we ever get healthy we only need one more top-9 guy. Then we can debate what kind of 4th line is best.
Unfortunately the two guys who had the best chance and opportunity to earn that spot have been dreadful.
Guys with top-9 upside:
Holmberg: 21gms, 11:00 (+3.2dzs%), 42.4xgf% (-6.2rel), 0.52ap/60
Robertson: 20gms, 10:36 (-1.4dzs%), 42.4xgf% (-6.6rel), 0.57ap/60
Minten: 4gms, 10:52 (+3.8dzs%), 32.3xgf% (-18.0rel), 2.76ap/60
Steeves: 4gms, 10:35 (+4.9dzs%), 47.8xgf% (-1.8rel), 0.00ap/60
Grebenkin: 4gms, 8:38 (-1.9dzs%), 53.0xgf% (+4.1rel), 0.00ap/60
Nylander: 3gms, 7:48 (-6.3dzs%), 52.6xgf% (+3.1rel), 0.00ap/60
Holmberg and Robby have been inexcusably awful. I'm not sure exactly how good Minten and Grebs have actually been so far but they've been a bit easier on my eyes (test) at least. Steeves and Butterface have been fine i think but nothing too notable - though even that's better than much of the competition.
Strictly 4th liners:
Kampf: 18gms, 9:47 (+6.5dzs%), 44.9xgf% (-3.3rel), 0.68ap/60
Dewar: 7gms, 9:45 (+4.8dzs%), 53.0xgf% (+2.1rel), 0.00ap/60
Lorentz: 23gms, 9:05 (+6.4dzs%), 51.3xgf% (+1.6rel), 0.72ap/60
Reaves: 16gms, 7:49 (+6.5dzs%), 46.5xgf% (-2.4rel), 0.24ap/60
If coach is going to insist on playing an entirely unskilled 4th line the least he could to is make sure both Lorentz and Dewar are on it. Those two are at least holding their own out there in tough usage even if they have no offense to speak of. Reaves should obviously never play again and Kampf should be out too.
Scary thing tho is based on recent lineups I think coach is thinking about playing all 4 of these guys going forward, with Lorentz on the 3rd line.
5v5
Knies: 21gms, 13:29 (-1.4dzs%), 52.8xgf% (-0.1rel), 2.02ap/60
McMann: 21gms, 12:31 (+1.5dzs%), 48.3xgf% (-2.4rel), 1.60ap/60
Domi: 19gms, 12:29 (-0.3dzs%), 46.9xgf% (-4.2rel), 1.15ap/60
Pacioretty: 13gms, 10:34 (-1.1dzs%), 59.4xgf% (+0.0rel), 2.19ap/60
So Domi not getting it done, though a lot of that might just be him not being able to hack it at C. I'm guessing Domi gets back on track soon enough tho.
Patches was always one of the candidates to win one of these depth roles and he did it easily with some excellent play, which was also helped by his competition sucking balls (i.e. holmberg/robertson).
Now the bottom 5 hasn't been as good, but a lot of that is coach being addicted to the shittiest 4th line he can make with this roster. Hoepfullyt he leafs' play without Kampf and Reaves has helped with his withdrawal pains and sobered him up a bit.
If we ever get healthy we only need one more top-9 guy. Then we can debate what kind of 4th line is best.
Unfortunately the two guys who had the best chance and opportunity to earn that spot have been dreadful.
Guys with top-9 upside:
Holmberg: 21gms, 11:00 (+3.2dzs%), 42.4xgf% (-6.2rel), 0.52ap/60
Robertson: 20gms, 10:36 (-1.4dzs%), 42.4xgf% (-6.6rel), 0.57ap/60
Minten: 4gms, 10:52 (+3.8dzs%), 32.3xgf% (-18.0rel), 2.76ap/60
Steeves: 4gms, 10:35 (+4.9dzs%), 47.8xgf% (-1.8rel), 0.00ap/60
Grebenkin: 4gms, 8:38 (-1.9dzs%), 53.0xgf% (+4.1rel), 0.00ap/60
Nylander: 3gms, 7:48 (-6.3dzs%), 52.6xgf% (+3.1rel), 0.00ap/60
Holmberg and Robby have been inexcusably awful. I'm not sure exactly how good Minten and Grebs have actually been so far but they've been a bit easier on my eyes (test) at least. Steeves and Butterface have been fine i think but nothing too notable - though even that's better than much of the competition.
Strictly 4th liners:
Kampf: 18gms, 9:47 (+6.5dzs%), 44.9xgf% (-3.3rel), 0.68ap/60
Dewar: 7gms, 9:45 (+4.8dzs%), 53.0xgf% (+2.1rel), 0.00ap/60
Lorentz: 23gms, 9:05 (+6.4dzs%), 51.3xgf% (+1.6rel), 0.72ap/60
Reaves: 16gms, 7:49 (+6.5dzs%), 46.5xgf% (-2.4rel), 0.24ap/60
If coach is going to insist on playing an entirely unskilled 4th line the least he could to is make sure both Lorentz and Dewar are on it. Those two are at least holding their own out there in tough usage even if they have no offense to speak of. Reaves should obviously never play again and Kampf should be out too.
Scary thing tho is based on recent lineups I think coach is thinking about playing all 4 of these guys going forward, with Lorentz on the 3rd line.
Wayward DP
Well-known member
Coaches and their fourth lines